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Offline Dawn

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« on: August 14, 2009, 07:40:09 AM »
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    Offline CM

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    « Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 01:55:18 AM »
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    • Dawn, this is a remarkable article, and though I disagree with Horvat where she calls non-Catholics Catholics and antipope popes, she still has shown the importance of rejecting Benedict XV as an antipope.  Thank you for this excellent find!
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    « Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 07:21:58 AM »
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    • You would like there site. And, of course you and I both realize that there are anti-popes and false popes so you can navigate around all of that.
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    « Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 08:11:10 AM »
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    • As I have stated before, Popes like Pius IX and St. Pius X were much different than Popes like Leo XIII, Benedict XV, Pius XI, and Pius XII. Even one Cardinal stated after the death of Pius X stated, "humanly speaking the Church is finished." Popes after Pius X very were weak on Modernism, not realizing that it was right under their nose.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 05:27:22 PM »
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    • John XXII was in the early 15th Century-- not 14th

    The way the schismatics link to the Apostle John or John the Baptist is through the Templar heresy which believes somehow that one of them( I forget which) is the messiah.

    I hope no one is falling for the same lies being circulated re: Card Rampolla and his alleged nefarious influence on Ben 15. These two men are on opposite sides of the theological spectrum.

    Truth is that for the last 26 yrs of Card Rampolla's life he had only a passing realtionship with Della Chiesa and rarely saw him. It is Rampolla who first senses there is something phoney with Della Chiesa

    What a joke to allege that Rampolla was 'forced out of the Curia'. The fact is that Card Rampolla retained his post as arch-priest of the Vatican Cathedral and was even appointed by St Pius X as Chmn of the Pontifical Commission of Biblical Studies.

    The allegation that Leo XIII was somehow at odds with the Zelanti is bunk. He is as conservative a Pope as Pius IX, Pius X, Card Raphael and Card Rampolla.

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    « Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 05:29:41 PM »
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    • It is also bunk to assert that Pius XI(XII) or Pius XII(XIII) are weak on modernism. The Barque of Peter is simply caught in a typhoon which no one can control.
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    « Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 05:32:25 PM »
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    • What was the Emperor's "age old privilege"?
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    « Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 05:44:03 PM »
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    • The term privledge is correct because the veto was never a right-- just a courtesy granted by custom. At any rate it was abolished by Pius IX and put away forever with Pius X.
    Acc to Merry Del Val, Card Rampolla was not going to be elected anyway even though it looked that way for a while.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 17, 2009, 11:30:44 PM »
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    • After correctly linking 16 with 15, the above article takes a flight of fancy when attempting to link the alleged modernism back to Benedict XIV. The faction accusing the Pope in those days was typically Jansenist.
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    « Reply #9 on: August 18, 2009, 03:17:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe
    The term privledge is correct because the veto was never a right-- just a courtesy granted by custom. At any rate it was abolished by Pius IX and put away forever with Pius X.
    Acc to Merry Del Val, Card Rampolla was not going to be elected anyway even though it looked that way for a while.


    I was wondering what the privledge was though.
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    « Reply #10 on: August 18, 2009, 03:27:53 PM »
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    • Re read the article-- the privledge of being able to reject a papal candidate.
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