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Offline HeidtXtreme

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Is the End coming…
« on: August 17, 2025, 05:53:14 PM »
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  • Is the End coming before we get another True Catholic Pope? (In your opinion).
    I know someone who seems to think so. I know we know not the day nor the hour but I wonder what different people mean when we say “we’re in the end times”.

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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #1 on: August 17, 2025, 06:19:03 PM »
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  • Of course we’re in the end times. St. Paul says so. 1 Corinthians 10:11. Will Our Lord return before the next Pope, IOW, if Leo XIV is indeed a true pope, is he the last pope?  I wouldn’t dare to guess. If Pius XII was the most recent true pope, considering he died in 1958, nearly 70 years without a pope, again, I dare not say. 
    Have we had the Chastisement yet?  
    What about other prophecies? 
    Could these all occur in the lifetime of Leo? 
    Certainly, but we don’t know what is his lifetime. 
    Just because he is 69 doesn’t mean he’ll live into his 80’s or 90’s.
    He could die tomorrow as could any of us. 
    What really matters is not the last day, but our last day.


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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #2 on: August 17, 2025, 06:35:45 PM »
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  • Of course we’re in the end times. St. Paul says so. 1 Corinthians 10:11. Will Our Lord return before the next Pope, IOW, if Leo XIV is indeed a true pope, is he the last pope?  I wouldn’t dare to guess. If Pius XII was the most recent true pope, considering he died in 1958, nearly 70 years without a pope, again, I dare not say.
    Have we had the Chastisement yet? 
    What about other prophecies?
    Could these all occur in the lifetime of Leo?
    Certainly, but we don’t know what is his lifetime.
    Just because he is 69 doesn’t mean he’ll live into his 80’s or 90’s.
    He could die tomorrow as could any of us.
    What really matters is not the last day, but our last day.
    Perfect and articulate as usual. Kudos!

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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #3 on: August 17, 2025, 06:45:16 PM »
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  • Is the End coming before we get another True Catholic Pope? (In your opinion).
    I know someone who seems to think so. I know we know not the day nor the hour but I wonder what different people mean when we say “we’re in the end times”.
    The “end times” began at Calvary. We are now at the close of the fifth age, not the very end. In 1931 Our Lord warned that the Pope and bishops would suffer like the King of France if they delayed in consecrating Russia. That hundred years is nearly complete, and we already live through the eclipse of the Church since Vatican II.

    But before the end comes, there must first be the chastisement and then the reign of Mary. That reign will include a true Catholic Pope raised up to restore the Church. Only after this will come the final apostasy, the Antichrist, and the Last Day.

    So no — the world is not ending before we see another true Pope. Our duty is to hold fast to the Faith, and fight until that restoration.

    Viva Cristo Rey.



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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #4 on: August 17, 2025, 07:46:21 PM »
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  • The “end times” began at Calvary. We are now at the close of the fifth age, not the very end. In 1931 Our Lord warned that the Pope and bishops would suffer like the King of France if they delayed in consecrating Russia. That hundred years is nearly complete, and we already live through the eclipse of the Church since Vatican II.

    But before the end comes, there must first be the chastisement and then the reign of Mary. That reign will include a true Catholic Pope raised up to restore the Church. Only after this will come the final apostasy, the Antichrist, and the Last Day.

    So no — the world is not ending before we see another true Pope. Our duty is to hold fast to the Faith, and fight until that restoration.

    Viva Cristo Rey.

    To add to this. Our Lord's original request to Sister Lucia at Tuy was in June 1929, not 1931. So the 100 years would most likely start from there. And Our Lord's 1929 request came right after the signing of the Lateran Treaty, which, for the first time, made the Vatican City-State a "respectable" nation among the other nations of the world, which begins its obsession with being a political player in the Freemasonic nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

    https://fatima.org/news-views/apparition-at-tuy-and-the-lateran-treaty/

    So the 100 years started in 1929. Do the math for the ending of that prophecy.

    Also, the narrative of the Beast in Daniel refers to the heads of the Vatican City-State. From 1929 there were 7 legitimate heads (PiusXI, PiusXII, JohnXXIII, PaulVI, JPI, JPII, BXVI). These are the 7 heads spoken of by Daniel. The 8th head, called "the Beast" is described as "of the 7 and goes to perdition" (Apoc. 17:11). That is Bergoglio. Now we are in the period described by St. John as the period of the "ten horns," the Cardinals who were put in power by "the Beast" (Bergoglio) and who will "hate the harlot [the Synodal false Church], and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her with fire."

    As a confirmation of the general timeline, we have the authentic Third Secret of Fatima. The Third Secret was supposed to be opened "after the death of Pius XII and before 1960." That year was 1959. The authentic Third Secret speaks of the "70 Weeks" prophecy of Daniel, chapter 9. Weeks refers to the Feast of Weeks, which occurs once a year. So, do the math. 70 years from 1959.

    Here is the authentic Third Secret text (the handwriting has been confirmed to be Sister Lucia's):

    https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g33ht_Decipher.htm

    The final deciphered version thus reads, line by line: 


    Now I am going to reveal the third fragment of the secret; 
    This part is the apostasy in the Church! 

    Our Lady showed us a Church, but this was a
    Church of hell, and an individual who I describe as the 'holy 
    Father' leading a multitude that was praising the devil,
    but there was a difference from a true holy Father, the gaze, 
    this one had the gaze of evil. 

    Then we saw the same Pope entering a Church, 
    after some moments, but there is no way to describe the 
    ugliness of that place, it looked like a gray cement fortress 
    with broken angles and windows similar to eyes; 
    it had a beak in the roof of the building. 

    Next, we raised our eyes to Our Lady who
    said to us: You saw the apostasy in the Church. 

    Because the dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome, its authority 
    will be removed and delivered to Fatima. The cathedra [or chair] of Rome will be 
    destroyed and a new one built in Fatima. 

    In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter's tomb
    will be removed and transferred to Fatima. 

    This letter can be opened by the holy Father, but it must be 
    announced after Pius XII and before 1960. 

    If 69 weeks after this order is announced, Rome continues its 
    abomination, the city will be destroyed. 

    Our Lady told us that this is written, [in] Daniel 9:24-25 and Matthew 21:42-44.
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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #5 on: August 17, 2025, 07:51:17 PM »
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  • We are in Latter times.  Not end times.  Note Chapter 12 of Daniel, and tribulations to follow.  We await the Church Triumphant, Our Lady's Reign Her Immaculate Heart will Reign.(established)

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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #6 on: August 18, 2025, 01:06:30 PM »
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  • We will have a true Pope before the end of the world. If Pius XII was the last, then the dogma of perpetual successors till the end of time won't be true. There has to be someone to end the interregnum or the papacy would have ended 70 (or however long) years before the end of the world.

    Personally I don't think we are near the end of the world yet, even the angels in heaven don't know.

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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #7 on: August 18, 2025, 01:38:05 PM »
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  • Of course we’re in the end times. St. Paul says so. 1 Corinthians 10:11. Will Our Lord return before the next Pope, IOW, if Leo XIV is indeed a true pope, is he the last pope?  I wouldn’t dare to guess. If Pius XII was the most recent true pope, considering he died in 1958, nearly 70 years without a pope, again, I dare not say.
    Have we had the Chastisement yet? 
    What about other prophecies?
    Could these all occur in the lifetime of Leo?
    Certainly, but we don’t know what is his lifetime.
    Just because he is 69 doesn’t mean he’ll live into his 80’s or 90’s.
    He could die tomorrow as could any of us.
    What really matters is not the last day, but our last day.
    Exactly this!  
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #8 on: August 18, 2025, 02:44:50 PM »
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  • To add to this. Our Lord's original request to Sister Lucia at Tuy was in June 1929, not 1931. So the 100 years would most likely start from there. And Our Lord's 1929 request came right after the signing of the Lateran Treaty, which, for the first time, made the Vatican City-State a "respectable" nation among the other nations of the world, which begins its obsession with being a political player in the Freemasonic nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

    https://fatima.org/news-views/apparition-at-tuy-and-the-lateran-treaty/

    So the 100 years started in 1929. Do the math for the ending of that prophecy.

    Also, the narrative of the Beast in Daniel refers to the heads of the Vatican City-State. From 1929 there were 7 legitimate heads (PiusXI, PiusXII, JohnXXIII, PaulVI, JPI, JPII, BXVI). These are the 7 heads spoken of by Daniel. The 8th head, called "the Beast" is described as "of the 7 and goes to perdition" (Apoc. 17:11). That is Bergoglio. Now we are in the period described by St. John as the period of the "ten horns," the Cardinals who were put in power by "the Beast" (Bergoglio) and who will "hate the harlot [the Synodal false Church], and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her with fire."

    As a confirmation of the general timeline, we have the authentic Third Secret of Fatima. The Third Secret was supposed to be opened "after the death of Pius XII and before 1960." That year was 1959. The authentic Third Secret speaks of the "70 Weeks" prophecy of Daniel, chapter 9. Weeks refers to the Feast of Weeks, which occurs once a year. So, do the math. 70 years from 1959.

    Here is the authentic Third Secret text (the handwriting has been confirmed to be Sister Lucia's):

    https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g33ht_Decipher.htm

    The final deciphered version thus reads, line by line:


    Now I am going to reveal the third fragment of the secret;
    This part is the apostasy in the Church!

    Our Lady showed us a Church, but this was a
    Church of hell, and an individual who I describe as the 'holy
    Father' leading a multitude that was praising the devil,
    but there was a difference from a true holy Father, the gaze,
    this one had the gaze of evil.

    Then we saw the same Pope entering a Church,
    after some moments, but there is no way to describe the
    ugliness of that place, it looked like a gray cement fortress
    with broken angles and windows similar to eyes;
    it had a beak in the roof of the building.

    Next, we raised our eyes to Our Lady who
    said to us: You saw the apostasy in the Church.

    Because the dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome, its authority
    will be removed and delivered to Fatima. The cathedra [or chair] of Rome will be
    destroyed and a new one built in Fatima.

    In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter's tomb
    will be removed and transferred to Fatima.

    This letter can be opened by the holy Father, but it must be
    announced after Pius XII and before 1960.

    If 69 weeks after this order is announced, Rome continues its
    abomination, the city will be destroyed.

    Our Lady told us that this is written, [in] Daniel 9:24-25 and Matthew 21:42-44.
    What do the two paragraphs regarding Fatima mean?

    “Because the dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome, its authority 
    will be removed and delivered to Fatima. The cathedra [or chair] of Rome will be 
    destroyed and a new one built in Fatima. 

    In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter's tomb
    will be removed and transferred to Fatima”

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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #9 on: August 18, 2025, 04:07:06 PM »
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  • What do the two paragraphs regarding Fatima mean?

    “Because the dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome, its authority
    will be removed and delivered to Fatima. The cathedra [or chair] of Rome will be
    destroyed and a new one built in Fatima.

    In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter's tomb
    will be removed and transferred to Fatima”

    All I can give you is my opinion. So take it for what it is worth and pray about it.

    1. Recall that Our Lady at La Salette told Melanie that "Rome will lose the Faith and become the Seat of the Antichrist." So, those two paragraphs from the Fatima message are further details related to that same topic. 

    2. The "dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome." Is this not a fact? This prophecy has been realized, yes?

    3. Because of #2, Rome's (Vatican) authority will be removed and delivered to "Fatima." Just below this, Our Lady says that "the city [Rome] will be destroyed, if the abomination continues beyond 69 years from 1960. But the Roman Catholic Church will not be destroyed just because apostate Rome/Vatican are destroyed. What will this new form of "the Church" look like? It is a mystery. But I think the word "Fatima" refers to Our Lady herself as the agent of this new "authority" that crushes the head of the apostate Vatican counter-Church serpent. It will result in what Catholics call the "Reign of Mary." The details of which, again, are tied up in mystery. It is described figuratively as the New Heaven and New Earth in the Apocalypse.

    4. In the kingdom of JPII, a piece of the Peter's tomb was moved to Fatima. This is a fact. You can google it. But I don't think that is the complete meaning intended by Our Lady. I think it is a riddle. And I am not certain about the solution to the riddle. My wild guess is that "the cornerstone" refers to Christ Himself. And it was during the reign of JPII that Rome lost its divine authority. Jesus exited the counter-Church and put the few faithful souls remaining under the care of Our Lady until His Return. Many of those faithful souls will not have access to the Sacraments during that time. But they will have the Rosary, if they choose to use it to sustain themselves spiritually.


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    Re: Is the End coming…
    « Reply #10 on: August 18, 2025, 06:42:23 PM »
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  • All I can give you is my opinion. So take it for what it is worth and pray about it.

    1. Recall that Our Lady at La Salette told Melanie that "Rome will lose the Faith and become the Seat of the Antichrist." So, those two paragraphs from the Fatima message are further details related to that same topic.

    2. The "dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome." Is this not a fact? This prophecy has been realized, yes?

    3. Because of #2, Rome's (Vatican) authority will be removed and delivered to "Fatima." Just below this, Our Lady says that "the city [Rome] will be destroyed, if the abomination continues beyond 69 years from 1960. But the Roman Catholic Church will not be destroyed just because apostate Rome/Vatican are destroyed. What will this new form of "the Church" look like? It is a mystery. But I think the word "Fatima" refers to Our Lady herself as the agent of this new "authority" that crushes the head of the apostate Vatican counter-Church serpent. It will result in what Catholics call the "Reign of Mary." The details of which, again, are tied up in mystery. It is described figuratively as the New Heaven and New Earth in the Apocalypse.

    4. In the kingdom of JPII, a piece of the Peter's tomb was moved to Fatima. This is a fact. You can google it. But I don't think that is the complete meaning intended by Our Lady. I think it is a riddle. And I am not certain about the solution to the riddle. My wild guess is that "the cornerstone" refers to Christ Himself. And it was during the reign of JPII that Rome lost its divine authority. Jesus exited the counter-Church and put the few faithful souls remaining under the care of Our Lady until His Return. Many of those faithful souls will not have access to the Sacraments during that time. But they will have the Rosary, if they choose to use it to sustain themselves spiritually.
    I agree with you.  The beginning sentence of the third secret is, "in Portugal the dogma of faith will always be preserved" might indicate the authority will be established there.  I also find it interesting that Our Lady says the words "the kingdom of John Paul ll."  Not Our Lords kingdom and not the pontificate of John Paul ll.