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Synod letter from Cardinals
« on: October 17, 2015, 06:56:00 PM »
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  • http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/crisis-for-pope-francis-as-top-level-cardinals-tell-him-your-synod-could-lead-to-the-collapse-of-the-church/

    Update, 3.20pm Monday: As I write this, various cardinals have said they didn’t sign the letter, some of them waiting several hours before distancing themselves from it. Now Erdö says he didn’t sign it. It’s extremely hard to get at the truth. ‘Not signing’ can mean a number of things, ranging from an outright false claim that a cardinal supported the letter to panicky backtracking by cardinals who did assent to it but are grasping at the technicality that they didn’t personally append their signature. But the damage to the synod is done.

    A group of cardinals – including some of the most powerful figures in the Catholic Church – have written to Pope Francis telling him that his Synod on the Family, now meeting in Rome, has gone badly off the rails and could cause the church to collapse.

    Their leaked letter, written as the synod started, presumably explains why a few days ago the Pope suddenly warned against ‘conspiracy’ and reminded the cardinals that he, and only he, will decide the outcome of the synod.

    This is the gravest crisis he has faced, worse than anything that happened to Benedict XVI, and he knows it.

    And, talking of the Pope Emeritus, I suspect that, had he been free to sign the letter, he would have done so.

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    The cardinals warn the Pope, in diplomatic language, that (a) the synod is being hijacked by liberals obsessed with the narrow issue of giving Communion to divorced and remarried people; (b) going down the route of ‘pastoral flexibility’ could lead to the Catholic Church falling apart in the same way as liberal Protestant denominations; and (c) the synod working papers prepared by the Pope’s allies Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri and Archbishop Bruno Forte are a mess and going down badly with the Synod Fathers.

    The seniority of the signatories shows how close the church is to cινιℓ ωαr. Cardinal Gerhard Müller, Prefect of the Congregation of the Faith – the Church’s doctrinal watchdog – is on the list. So is Cardinal George Pell, head of the Vatican’s finances, and Cardinal Robert Sarah, in charge of the Church’s worship.

    Sarah is the most prominent African cardinal in the church, along with Cardinal Wilfred Napier of Durban, who has also signed. Add to that the name of Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York, and it becomes clear that the loss of confidence in Pope Francis extends far beyond the Vatican.

    He is, however, passionately supported by liberal cardinals in Europe and Latin America, among them Cardinal Reinhard Marx, head of the German bishops. He can also count of the unquestioning loyalty of Cardinal Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Westminster.

    As the Catholic Herald reported this morning:

        Two of the cardinals who signed the letter, published in full by [Vatican commentator] Sandro Magister, have prominent roles in the synod. Cardinal Péter Erdö is its relator general, and Cardinal Wilfrid Napier is a president delegate. [NB: On Monday afternoon, several hours after it appeared Cardinal Erdö denied signing the letter.]

        Other signatories included Vatican officials Cardinal Gerhard Müller and Cardinal George Pell.

        In the letter, the cardinals expressed concern that ‘a synod designed to address a vital pastoral matter – reinforcing the dignity of marriage and family – may become dominated by the theological/doctrinal issue of Communion for the divorced and civilly remarried’.

        The letter continued: ‘The collapse of liberal Protestant churches in the modern era, accelerated by their abandonment of key elements of Christian belief and practice in the name of pastoral adaptation, warrants great caution in our own synodal discussions.’

        The cardinals also asked the Pope to ‘consider a number of concerns we have heard from other synod fathers, and which we share’ and criticised the synod’s Instrumentum Laboris, or working docuмent.

        ‘While the synod’s preparatory docuмent, the Instrumentum Laboris, has admirable elements, it also has sections that would benefit from substantial reflection and reworking,’ the letter said.

        ‘The new procedures guiding the synod seem to guarantee it excessive influence on the synod’s deliberations and on the final synodal docuмent. As it stands, and given the concerns we have already heard from many of the fathers about its various problematic sections, the Instrumentum cannot adequately serve as a guiding text or the foundation of a final docuмent.’

    Here is the list as originally reported by Magister:
    • Carlo Caffarra, archbishop of Bologna, Italy, theologian, formerly the first president of the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family;
    • Thomas C. Collins, archbishop of Toronto, Canada;
    • Timothy M. Dolan, archbishop of New York, United States;
    • Willem J. Eijk, archbishop of Utrecht, Holland;
    • Péter Erdö, archbishop of Esztergom-Budapest, Hungary, president of the Council of the Bishops’ Conferences of Europe and relator general of the synod underway, as also at the previous session of October 2014 [He has now denied signing the letter, though there was a noticeable delay before he did so];
    • Gerhard L. Müller, former bishop of Regensburg, Germany, since 2012 prefect of the congregation for the doctrine of the faith;
    • Wilfrid Fox Napier, archbishop of Durban, South Africa, president delegate of the synod underway as also at the previous session of the synod of October 2014;
    • George Pell, archbishop emeritus of Sydney, Australia, since 2014 prefect in the Vatican of the secretariat for the economy;
    • Mauro Piacenza, Genoa, Italy, former prefect of the congregation for the clergy, since 2013 penitentiary major. [He now denies signing the letter];
    • Robert Sarah, former archbishop of Conakry, Guinea, since 2014 prefect of the congregation for divine worship and the discipline;
    • Angelo Scola, archbishop of Milan, Italy. [He now denies signing the letter];
    • Jorge L. Urosa Savino, archbishop of Caracas, Venezuela;
    • André Vingt-Trois, archbishop of Paris, France, president delegate of the synod underway as also at the previous session of the synod of October 2014. [He now denies signing the letter.]

    Note that not all these cardinals are regarded as outright conservatives: Cardinal Dolan, for example, is gently orthodox, an amiable figure far removed from the thundering traditionalist Cardinal Raymond Burke, who has been excluded from the synod.

    Moreover – and this is very dangerous for Francis – the main point of contention is not the question of whether the church should be give communion to divorce people in second marriages, or whether gαy unions should be given some degree of recognition.

    This is an argument about the wisdom of calling the synod in the first place, and expresses the suspicion of over 100 Synod Fathers that the organisers are manipulating proceedings by confronting them with working papers and procedures designed to push them in a liberal direction. Others are simply fed up with the amateurish nature of the proceedings and wonder why, after last year’s chaotic preparatory synod, the Pope left the same people in charge. To quote the Australian Archbishop Mark Coleridge, ‘At times our work has seemed more muddled than methodical’.

    I’m one of countless commentators who has warned that holding this synod could split the church. Now it’s happening, much faster than any of us anticipated.
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    Synod letter from Cardinals
    « Reply #1 on: October 17, 2015, 07:37:56 PM »
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  • So, the schismatics fear they could be headed for a schism?
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    « Reply #2 on: October 17, 2015, 07:45:16 PM »
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  • Actually, we're way past collapsed....


    Offline LucasL

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    « Reply #3 on: October 18, 2015, 12:49:59 AM »
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  • The best way to end this is to end the Synod without any docuмent. Francis should say: "My people, due to various problems all questions discussed at the Synod will be done later. There are no docuмents, teachings or instructions coming from this Synod"

    I pray for this to happen, but it's I know Francis don't have common sense, so I don't expect anything.

    The only thing good this Synod can do is to show more than never how infiltrated the Church is and how away the Cardinals are from Catholic teaching. On the other side the blinds will turn blinder and the evil in their hearts will turn greater. The Devil hates the Church so I don't see why not to expect more hate to come targeting the ones who follows the Tradition.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 18, 2015, 05:48:01 AM »
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  • With all Christian meekness, Cardinal Dolan is not 'mildly orthodox' Every man on that list is a Modernist, a liberal and a heretic, a betrayer of the true Church and utterly morally corrupt. They are not Catholic prelates, they are prelates of the new, conciliar religion, the religion of Man.

    The very idea that adulterers could profane the body of Our Lord, or that perverted corruption could be 'recognised' by the Church is obscene and would have been unbelievable. It makes perfect sense if you allow that the conciliar sect is Masonic and humanistic, changing to match the desires of corrupt man. The end is of course the worship of Man and of Lucifer.

    The few names I do recognise: Cardinal Dolan supports by omission, at least, giving communion to child-murderers.

    Cardinal Burke, supposedly a traditionalist, says a sacrilegious, bastard Mass and is in favour of sinking the SSPX by a purported reconciliation.

    Scola is the editor of the abominable Modernist magazine 'Communio' and a leader of the so-called ''conservative'' 'Communion and Liberation' (whose 'charism' includes the phrase, at least 'savouring of heresy' ''the affirmation that Jesus of Nazareth is a present event in a sign of communion, only in his presence can man be truer and mankind be truly more human.''

    If that is not i) a denial of the Real Presence (it reminds me of the appalling heresy of 'trans-signification') and ii) the Religion of Man I do not know what is.

    t simply indicates that those whom Bishop Williamson calls 'the bad guys' are altogether in control. A dispute between two sects in the religion of Man, any more than a quarrel between Montagnards and Girondins, ought to be regarded with disgust and suspicion.

    I suspect the reason the Devil encourages this sort of thing is to seduce true Catholics back into the conciliar sect by implying that there is some 'conservatism' in it. There are no true Catholics in the conciliar sect. Above all we must not be seduced into the camp of the Girondins because they seem in certain lights to be ever so slightly less revolutionary than the Montagnards, . No, no, no! They are both Jacobins, both revolutionaries. They may disagree with exactly what to replace the true Faith but they loathed it, they loathe it. They start from rejecting the entirety of the Catholic Faith. Their theology is utterly modernist, starting from a rejection of Pascendi, Lamentabili and the Syllabus.

    We must remember ''Rome has lost the Faith, dear friends, Rome is in apostasy!'

    We are clear of the conciliar church, at least. We should all pray lest we are seduced back into it and especially hard for family, strangers, enemies who profess the false religion of Man with a greater or lesser degree of pardonable ignorance that they become true Catholics.

    God bless you all,
    Patrick Gray

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    « Reply #5 on: October 18, 2015, 05:54:35 PM »
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  • The only thing the signers of that letter are afraid of is that donations from conservative contributors could dry up.
    St. Jude, who, disregarding the threats of the impious, courageously preached the doctrine of Christ,
    pray for us.