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Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
« on: March 07, 2013, 02:54:36 PM »
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  • Slippery slope time!


    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    BY JOHN JALSEVAC
    Thu Mar 07, 2013

    March 7, 2013, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Days after the German bishops approved the use of the morning-after pill in cases of rape, the Swiss bishops have followed their lead.

    A spokesman for the Swiss bishops, Walter Müller, told the Swiss News Agency that the drug may be used in cases of rape, but only when it will have a contraceptive effect, and not when it “induces an abortion.”


    "The medicine should not contribute in any way to the end of a human life, which begins with fertilization and must be protected," he said.

    This is the same position taken by the German bishops, a position that has received the backing of the head of the Pontifical Academy for Life, Monsignor Ignacio Carrasco de Paula.

    However, this position is not without its critics, with some pointing to evidence that in some circuмstances "emergency contraceptive" drugs act as abortifacients.

    "If there is a pill that prevents conception in cases of rape, then it is licit to prevent it," Spanish Bishop Juan Antonio Martínez Camino, secretary for the Spanish Bishops’ Conference, recently told El Mundo.

    He added, however, "We have no knowledge of a morning-after pill without abortifacient effects…If it did exist, we would be sure to know it.”

    While the German bishops stated that they had learned about new formulations of the morning-after pill that act only as a contraceptive, a leading Catholic doctor in Spain questioned this statement.

    “I would say that approximately in half of the cases it acts as a contraceptive and the other half it has an anti-implantation effect,” Doctor Justo Aznar told the Catholic News Agency.

    Dr. Aznar, director for life sciences at the Catholic University of Valencia said he believes the German Bishops’ action is based on “a small technical ignorance.”

    One pharmaceutical expert in Switzerland also criticized the bishops’ statement, stating that in practice it is not possible to determine exactly when the drugs might act as a contraceptive or an abortifacient.

    “The bishops’ statements give the impression that there are different types of morning-after pill on the market, which is not the case,” Karl Küenzi of Pharmasuisse told Zurich’s Tages Anzeiger newspaper.

    Bishops’ spokesman Müller reportedly acknowledged concerns about the potential the drug may cause an early abortion, but said that women should consult with physicians or a pharmacist on that issue.

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    This echoes the statement of Monsignor Carrasco, who demurred from directly addressing the question of the possible abortifacient effect of the morning after pill, telling Vatican Insider, “Whether a given medicine is classed as a contraceptive or abortion-inducing medication, is up to doctors and scientists, not the Church.”

    As LifeSiteNews.com reported previously, Dr. James Trussell, regarded as the lead researcher on the subject, recently said women should be warned about the possible abortifacient effects of so-called "emergency contraceptive." As an avid proponent of the morning after pill, Trussell has good reason to wish that the pill were not abortifacient, but has concluded otherwise based on the science.

    Trussell, a senior fellow at the Guttmacher Institute, a member of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s national medical committee, and a board member of the NARAL Pro-Choice America Foundation, has published more than 50 academic articles on the morning-after pill and runs a popular website and hotline to promote its use.

    In his February 2013 paper discussing the morning after pill, he warns: "To make an informed choice, women must know that [emergency contraceptive pills] … prevent pregnancy primarily by delaying or inhibiting ovulation and inhibiting fertilization, but may at times inhibit implantation of a fertilized egg in the endometrium.”
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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 02:55:42 PM »
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  • You know how some Bishops in the Conciliar Church have kept the faith, some have lost it, while still others are in the process of losing it?

    Well, these bishops have lost it. Past tense.

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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 03:09:59 PM »
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  • I do not understand why the baby has to pay the price for the rape by being aborted.
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    « Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 03:11:02 PM »
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  • As Bishop Williamson rightly quoted...

    "But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?"

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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #4 on: March 07, 2013, 03:16:17 PM »
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  • "In cases of rape" is always the foot-in-the-door, the camel's nose under the tent.

    The fact is, most abortions are done for other reasons (convenience of the mother, etc.)

    They want to provoke sympathy with the greatest number of people, so they talk about a poor woman who was raped by an evil man and now has to carry his baby to term, etc.

    Let's face it -- though Abortion is a heinous crime, the closest they're going to get to public sympathy for it will be in the case of rape. That's why they use that argument ALL THE TIME.

    But then once they've gotten you to waste some kleenex for the rape victims who need an abortion, then they'll move on to, "This poor woman can barely afford to pay her bills, and now she's found herself pregnant..."

    and onward and downward, down the slippery slope.
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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #5 on: March 07, 2013, 03:20:11 PM »
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  • Right- its pure emotion. While the principle of the matter, the murder of a human life, is continuously disregarded. God save us.

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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #6 on: March 07, 2013, 03:24:57 PM »
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  • It seems that the Conciliar church is unraveling at a faster pace.  Many of the bishops are not even pretending to be Catholic.  They are no longer disguised as shepherds, and now all can see them for what they are in full view:  the wolf.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic

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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 01:45:51 AM »
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  • And what sort of Pope doesn't yank their leash and put these heretical bishops back in line for making such statements contrary to the Faith??

    ah, I forgot, "collegiality"...the Pope is just 'first among equals', the bishop of Rome and all that.


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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 01:53:35 AM »
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  • According to a Hungarian saying if there is no cat, the mouse will squeak around. It's very true during an interregnum.

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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 08:59:12 AM »
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  • I was shocked when someone from the N.O. told me this is used in some U.S. Catholic  hospitals.

     This is the explanation of why they would allow it:

    http://www.ncbcenter.org/page.aspx?pid=301



     It seems like a slippery slope to me.  Couldn't they then argue that it's okay to be on the pill just in case?  
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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #10 on: March 08, 2013, 09:09:59 AM »
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  • The conciliarists are going the way they are going.

    Which way is the neo-SSPX going?



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    Swiss bishops approve morning-after pill in cases of rape
    « Reply #11 on: March 08, 2013, 09:13:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    I do not understand why the baby has to pay the price for the rape by being aborted.


    They do test to make sure the woman has not ovulated yet, so there is no abortion. It still is a slippery slope, but it doesn’t seem that they are advocating abortion after rape (yet).
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    « Reply #12 on: March 08, 2013, 09:15:48 AM »
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    They do test to make sure the woman has not ovulated yet, so there is no abortion. It still is a slippery slope, but it doesn’t seem that they are advocating abortion after rape (yet).


    Where is the evidence they don't give the pill if the test doesn't turn out right?

    For all we know they falsify the test.  


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    « Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 09:18:10 AM »
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  • If someone believes these people believe in the sanctity of life after conception anymore than they believe in the truth of the resurrection, I have a bridge to sell you.

    Does anyone really believe they don't authorize use of contraception in the confessional, generally speaking, in these liberal "Catholic parishes?"

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    « Reply #14 on: March 08, 2013, 09:20:23 AM »
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    They do test to make sure the woman has not ovulated yet, so there is no abortion. It still is a slippery slope, but it doesn’t seem that they are advocating abortion after rape (yet).


    Where is the evidence they don't give the pill if the test doesn't turn out right?

    For all we know they falsify the test.  



    I hadn’t thought of that. Good point.
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