From:
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f052ht_S-Vacante.htm
Looking at Some Basics of Sede-Vacantism, by
Atila S. Guimarães
4. The ordinary Magisterium
When we have recourse to the ordinary Magisterium of the Church, which as you may recall enjoys infallibility when it unanimously affirms the same teaching through the centuries, we do not find a uniform teaching with regard to a heretic Pope.
What we find is a theological discussion examining the question of a heretic Pope placed on the level of quaestio disputata [question open to discussion], that is, each theologian can express the opinion he wishes. These studies were already categorized by St. Robert Bellarmine into five basic opinions. The themes discussed include the following: Can the Pope be a heretic? Does the Pope lose the pontificate when he becomes a heretic? What if he were a secret heretic? What if he were a public heretic? Is it necessary for some ecclesiastical body to declare him a heretic for him to lose the pontificate or does he lose it automatically? If such declaration were made, would not this ecclesiastical body make itself superior to the Pope? If he is deposed automatically, at what moment does this take place? What happens to the Pope’s power of jurisdiction and orders when he is considered a heretic?
Bellarmine's only adds his opinion to a question still open to discussion
I would say this is due to the fact that such a thing had never happened before, since it would be such an unbelievable and unthinkable thing, namely, for the Vicar of Christ himself to become an open and public heretic and an apostate. It is just insane.
But when we see this very thing happening before our very eyes for decades on end, are we to ramble on saying "oh it's not infallibly settled whether that really is true or not" and simpy dismiss all these teachings from canonized Saints and Doctors of the Church?
And St. Robert Bellarmine certainly proves this is not mere "opinion open to discussion" and refutes the contrary views as baseless and false.
At the moment, what concerns me is not to make the list of responses to these questions,
Yeah we know that is your only concern, because you don't care about the truth but instead you bury your head in the sand and want to remain in denial and live your cozy life without getting into any unwanted complications and conclusions.
but rather to emphasize that there has been no definitive teaching on the matter. The opinions of the various theologians are expressed strongly, but with humility, knowing that until the Church speaks, there is no definitive answer.
False. 2 Popes, Innocent III and Paul IV already said it is the case.
And on the other hand, how then can people say we are bound to believe in BOD/BOB if they are most certainly "not definitive" nor have they been infallibly taught?
The important conclusion is that there is not unanimity of opinion among the theologians about what happens should a Pope fall into heresy.
Important conclsion? For what? To continue in your blasphemous position of believing the Church defected?
Anyways, it is the majority opinion, with only a handful of dissenters which have been refuted anyways by Saints and Doctors.
I point out again to the case of BOD/BOB. Is there absolute unanimity there? No.
Even if there were unanimity, this opinion still would not have infallibility. Infallibility resides only in the extraordinary pontifical teachings or in the ordinary pontifical teachings when unanimous, and also in episcopal teachings throughout the centuries when they are unanimous. Even if the opinion of the theologians were unanimous, it would have a non-definitive weight, but at the present stage of the discussion, even this weight cannot be given to it.
This is false too, and it shows how these kind of people think one only has to go by "infallible" definitions. The truth is that it is just pure hypocrisy because when it suits them they say you only go by what's infallible but when it suits them they say you have to accept non-infallible things as well.
It seems to me that, regarding this discussion, the partisans of sede-vacantism should be more honest with their followers. Instead of presenting partial opinions of this or that Saint or Doctor as if they were definitive certainties, they should show their followers that the topic is a study in progress that will only be closed when the Church leaves the present day crisis and a good Pope gives a final word on the matter.
It seems to me that you're nothing but a hypocrite.
Isn't this the very thing YOU Guimareas, and all the other ones who oppose SV, do?
You all "present partial opinions of this or that THEOLOGIAN as if they were definitive certainties".
Putting Suarez, John of St. Thomas and others in a pedestal to dogmatize r&r? Putting all these THEOLOGIANS over CANONIZED SAINTS AND DOCTORS of the Church? Perverting St. Robert's own teaching on the matter? What?
Concluding this Part I, we see that with regard to the consideration of the Church as divine, we must limit ourselves to saying that the conciliar Popes are heretics, without drawing definitive conclusions about the loss of their powers of jurisdiction and orders.
Nope, you either believe the Church failed and defected and isn't infallible or you believe these men are not Popes, there's no middle ground.