Author Topic: Strong words from the quiet Bishop (Read 2038 times)

CM · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:20:35 PM »

Wait for it...

CM · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:21:27 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

What do SSPX, Vatican II, Democrats and Republicans all have in common?

They're all Free Masons!

Okay, I admit that in the case of SSPX- I have no idea. But they're in communion with Free Masons anyway.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:54:10 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Huh? You are not sedevacantist, pft?

Tres decevant!

All this junk about "reconciliation" with the Vatican is a red herring. By saying "una cuм" they are already reconciled and if you go to SSPX you are implicitly denying the infallibility of the Church. Not only that but you are sticking a dagger right through the heart of the resistance, because you want to be comfortable. That is the main sin.

SSPX plays on your fear, it makes you feel safe taking the middle course. It says "You don't have to be lonely like those paranoid sedevacantists. Go ahead, have 20 children and bring them up in our Jansenist compound. Meanwhile we'll be denying dogmas left and right in your name."

You are so not safe that it is not even funny. You are part of an illogical third order that makes up its own rules as it goes along. If you are a sedevacantist however you are upholding infallibility and indefectibility, and you are consistent and whole of mind and purpose, as the Catholic Church always has been. I'll pray that everyone on this site realizes it.

YOU
HAVE
NO
SAFETY
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NUMBERS

Wait, wait, wait.

I am not sede vacant, as in, I THINK THERE IS A POPE OUT THERE, BUT HE IS IN HIDING.

So that means that I am more of a sede abjurist. I'm saying, I REALLY DON'T KNOW... anymore than any sede vacant person knows if there is a real pope out there or not. One thing I AM sure of, is that RatZINGer is not the pope. But I will not, and CANNOT say for sure if there is a real pope out there that is a successor to Gregory XVII, which no one I have talked to, is absolutely 100% sure of, except IN THEORY.

But I absolutely say for certain, (according to my puny intellect, and my INFORMED CONSCIENCE) that according to the very last thing in the Denzinger, that Pius XII codified language in the episcopal consecration rite, and that RatZINGer was made a "lolbishop" with the new prayer that didn't include the language REQUIRED to confer powers on a bishop. Therefore, he's not a bishop, and cannot be Bishop of Rome, AKA the Pope.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2009, 11:31:12 PM »

Every time one of these Trad boards starts up there is always one Siri believer, and they are the sweetest people... Maybe that should tell us something.

At Bellarmine forums it was Ken Gordon. He called himself a "Sede-impedist," as in the Pope was prevented from taking his throne.

It is entirely possible that Siri was the true Pope until his death. But I don't see how he could have anointed a successor. Either way, it doesn't do anyone any good, if he can't exercise his office and teach. It's not one of those questions on which our salvation depends, nor is BAPTISM OF DESIRE ( that one is for CM ). If there is a Pope out there, but he's hidden and unable to perform his duty, I don't think God will punish us for not believing in him until we get proof. If you do get proof, please inform all of us!

Sedevacantists, sedeprivationists, and sedeimpedists to me all are on the same page -- even if I think sedeprivationism is silly, it's not a heresy.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2009, 11:35:02 PM »

:)

Glad you understand my position.

But I don't necessarily subscribe to the so-called "Siri Thesis" because I need more proof.

I'm leaving the entire thing in God's hands, and I am praying that he will allow me to know the truth about the situation.

Right now, though, I live a Catholic life, and I hope that my prayers will be answered in the affirmative, but if God doesn't allow me to know, then I will do my very best to do His Divine Will.