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Mabel · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2013, 04:11:33 PM »

Quote from: Frances

:surprised: :confused1:So, what, exactly, is the "Resistance"?? Archbishop Lefebvre started the SSPX because????

:heretic:What you suggest has been tried over 500 years ago by some fellow named Martin Luther! :whistleblower:

Martin Luther did not try to elect a new pope, and he presented new doctrines, this is not equivalent with the sedevacantist position.

Mabel · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2013, 04:18:36 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

In fact, it is my understanding with CMRI they will not participate with any election, they have faith that God will work out this crisis in His perfect time.

That is true.

I think that the only people who suggest this are those unfamiliar with extraordinary papal elections. There are legitimate ways to get a true pope, none of them involve traditionalist clergy. I think people are well meaning in their desire to have a a pope and in their submission to his office and that is admirable but there are rules to this, we can't and won't usurp the laws and role of the Church.

The sedevacantist position is a response, not a solution. Myrna, you've pointed out one of the reasons the CMRI is so level and respectable.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2013, 04:21:25 PM »

Bless you for your zeal, but you need not worry that the Church will die. Christ has promised it wouldn't. We will 'continue' the Church the same way lay Catholics always have, by living our faith and practicing it.

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2013, 02:28:09 PM »

Even if the Mass and most sacraments and the hierarchy disappear, we have Baptism, a record of infallible de fide teachings from unquestionably valid councils and popes, the writings of the saints, the Clementine Vulgate and Doway-Rhemes Bibles, and the Rosary and Brown Scapular and the Act of Contrition. The True Church is indefectible. Some will argue that under those circuмstances it would lose its mark of visibility, but I'm not so sure.

Matto · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2013, 02:32:24 PM »

Quote from: TCat

Could a group of traditionalists get together in a provisional conclave and elect a new pope that stood for pre-vatican2 doctrine?

This has been tried. They elected this man.

This was tried by another group also. That group elected Lucian Pulvermacher.

Then there is also the Palmarian Catholic Church who had a pope who I think was supposedly chosen by divine revelation.