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Offline Raoul76

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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2010, 10:36:34 PM »
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    Prophets usually don't market their works on Amazon.com.


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    "Thank you Caminus."


    Nice attempt at imperturbable humility.  Heretics love that passive-aggressive schlock.  They lie and introduce poison into minds and if you say anything they smile benignly at you and say, "God bless you, my child, there are some things we are not always ready or able to understand."  I can just imagine you with the simpering smile plastered on your face --

    Oprah Guru

    Nothing is more aggravating than that routine.  I think that's why Athanasius socked Arius in the jaw.  

    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #31 on: June 29, 2010, 11:01:06 PM »
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  • An indifferentist too, why I'm sooo surprised.  And what's with all the references to goats?  Are you implying that anyone who questions your authority is an enemy of Christ?


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    « Reply #32 on: June 30, 2010, 06:26:56 PM »
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    Thank you gentlemen for the extreme critique.  
    Spiritus you want questions answered but have already concluded rubbish by agreeing with Jamie ( a stranger you just agreed with out of the blue to support your true intentions) and you want your list answered or else kinda stuff huh...?  Doesn't sound kind but hostile.  Relax the mind and focus, look past you critical selves...walk the walk etc.

    So look again, where I referred you to a link at jrcarri.com, also click on "about us" for details of what was revealed.  The book is my best effort to guiding readers to this experience.  This is my best effort to an experience that depressed me because of what it meant to me, and now it is in a book for interested readers.  A timetable is not perfect but "my best effort" given the rational person that I am, at best.    

    I wrote it as such because it introduces readers to it rather than this type of situation that I am in with you gentlemen.  It is my best effort in interpretation of the experience, it even has a timetable, "Left Behind and Tribulation kinda stuff, for some it is just entertainment perhaps.  $12 is not a whole lot of money, lunch money for some.  I don't mean to be taunting but you guys agreeing on "rubbish" that hurt.  

    I attend a Catholic Mass, eucharistic body and blood of Christ.  I like to read about St Francis, St John (kind of deep and hard to follow but I try), St Theresa.  Favorite saints are: St Joan of Arc (for her courage amidst unbelieving wolves), St Michael, Fatima, St Christopher Columbus, St Juniper (my favorite you guys would love him and he you), Kabbalah, Carl Jung Psych...a variety of stuff.  Anyway guys stop with the hostile tones.
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    Actually I agreed with the point he made about Catholic Answers loving to read rubbish because they do. I would know, I used to post there. Although I must say, this does come off as being rubbish, especially since you refuse to give much information on what you're talking about so it is very confusing.. Let's point out a few things here.

    1.- You're still avoiding our questions, and it is quite obvious. These are simple questions. If you want us to believe anything you're saying you'll have to answer our questions. So far you've only answered one, and it wasn't even a clear answer.

    2.- I mean what type of Catholic Mass do you attend? Judging by your points of view you obviously don't attend a TLM, so I'm going to guess you attend the Novus Ordo right?

    3.- Christopher Columbus was a good man and all... but when was he ever canonized? Only the Church can canonize saints, not lay people.

    4.- I'm not trying trying to sound hostile here. You seem to have good intentions, and you do seem kind, but you won't answer anyone's questions. When people are confused, you should answer their questions to clear up any confusion, not tell them to buy your book to find the answers themselves and try to make a profit.

    God Bless.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #33 on: June 30, 2010, 06:36:29 PM »
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    You guys whats the point.  The point and story is in the book.  


    I can't think of one Catholic prophet who ever SOLD a message from God to the world. Though I'm sure in the pentecostal (and other) churches it probably happens all the time...
    I renounce any and all of my former views against what the Church through Pope Leo XIII said, "This, then, is the teaching of the Catholic Church ...no one of the several forms of government is in itself condemned, inasmuch as none of them contains anythi

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    « Reply #34 on: June 30, 2010, 11:21:14 PM »
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  • Thank you Dulcamara for that pleasant and serene posting.
    I want to share this section of my book located in Chapter 5  Tribulation Text.  All of my chapters lead up to this chapter, this is only a section of it.  This Chapter I didnt allow the editor to edit because I didn't want anyone to touch it especially the wolves you know what I mean (I got a sense of humor you guys and not totally literal as you presume to take all I say):  

    The Goats Leadeth Astray, January 8, 2009
    Thou art a goat, a pestering nuisance, belittling and exalting ye where every opportunity presents, even amongst thy brethren and especially thy unsuspecting enemies and even those apart who present to ye in love and sincerity. Runneth ye with little spoils of here and there to flatter yourselves now in this world. Knowing ye of such like an artful custom and craft of thee to intercede with your satan. Not grasping the Spirit proper and intentionally contributing in distortions, self power for thy place of custom or culture and even within your own thy seekest the same. Self devouring, self depleting, uncreating always at attention to any and all suggestion placed in thee by he. For he is at every table like a watchful dog, awaiting a summation to begin his cancerous growth of deceit. For he watches closely and loveth thee for use to his demise, like a prostitute he payeth ye off in gift and reward, so long as ye goes forth and fooleth thy sheep. This of which ye thinketh of your own doing and reward for thy self. Thy compliments and flatters for a mere now and not connecting of this for within and of benefit to the whole, but as deserving of such unhindered, wreckless knowledge of self exalt. Leashless, presenting and presuming thee even to be like sheep, to even lambs for proper ye present yourselves among the proper sheep and lambs, and leadeth ye into wild dogs and wolves. For evil knoweth Christ is the leash to our souls, for thus every means he will bring up to subdue ye here at the threat of life to the refusing sheep and lamb. Devouring in desperation if thy habitat is threatened and more if thy power is threatened, and more if the proper sheep should telleth ye proper.
    Thy demise a plan to destroyeth ye that telleth thee proper, just to maintaineth thee a proper pretense among the sheep and lambs, yet never ye submit. Even at the expense of the proper practice of the Sacrifice of the Lamb, yet preacheth ye of a false christ and of other gods united. For if such a necessary sacrifice would have been placed in thy hands from then to now, thy would have destroyed all with this Powerful and God Almighty task at hand. In pieces, shreds of meat and abominations, the Lamb of God would have been, even within the first century of thy undertaking, causing suffering amongst the poor sheep and lambs, that they should be the ones to maintain ye in comfort at their expense and grateful sacrifice and creation. For this reason, the sheep and lambs should inherit above ye and only above ye as Christ Almighty intended.
    Rebuttal it now ye blind goats, enrage now and show thy self for as thy truly is, you will be crushed and raked like leaves into your rightful place. Like devouring clowns are ye among the sheep and lambs when ye be exposed into thy real self - by your gifts of knowledge and material effort given to ye by Satan to survive amidst your world. Presumed glorious will ye be here proclaiming deceit and countering every righteous sign from God Proclaiming, fighting will be in your best of religious pretense and composure till thy real self revealed. When She giveth birth to the victorious Lamb ye will knoweth that thy time has come to descend ye back into hell. Your shepherd Satan shall round ye up as he shaped thee from then to now, as ye would listen in foolish submission, thinking it be of thy own secret thinking and rewarding but yet a gift by the god of the world. Thy will be given false miracles that thy will foolishly exalt amidst all to see; saying, look all for we are favored by a god, then ye more so plans thy fierce destruction, holding thy head up high in intoxication of thus. Goeth to the Lamb in humility and free of such things.


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    « Reply #35 on: July 01, 2010, 12:03:27 AM »
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  • You seem to think that being humble is a matter of simpering and putting on airs.  But Tanquerey says that the true Catholic spirit, and that means the true humble spirit, is quick to correct itself.  So can you respond, first of all, to Jamie who pointed out to you that the Kabbalah is not fit reading for Catholics, as even most Novus Ordo priests would have to admit?  And can you admit that Columbus is not a saint?

    An admission of error would be more refreshing than an outpouring of pseudo-Biblical vituperation disguised as charity.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #36 on: July 01, 2010, 11:02:37 AM »
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  • Raul
    Let him among you that is without sin cast the first stone.

    Every attempt bi those you presume not to submiT to excesses of knowledge filled with judgement is an opportunity for you to respond accordingly with thanks, gratitude and understanding.  After that you will see a joint and mutual submission when defenses come down. I am "sharing" not telling or preaching.  I've said, "Im sorry" and "Thank you" but still you shed shadows upon any attempts by me to have you shed some light and qualities of the Christian spirit.  

    WE and I and all of us have shadows, some darker than others.  "What are your shadows and how are they keeping you from seeing any light?" The latter quote is Kabbalah in essence it is a foundational inheritance or quality preceding Christianity.  It is a source in my quest for knowledge and wisdom as it is very much related to the old testament.  All of us have the Holy Spirit within us and we all feel and dream but are we listening to what is happening internally and prepared before you come out and address externally to others. It does not mean anyone person's perception is set in stone (like me) but we all move forward into the light by forgiveness and degrees of understanding, wisdom and rationale.  These are all gifts that we use to destroy and belittle rather than see.

    Anyway, I left a few typos and a taunting or two as a test for to to feed off of of in this posting in case you'd rather sling mud than the meaning and a thanks for sharing with us what you experienced and how you interpreted it.  

    PS: Just to share with you, my good friend, my source for Saint Christopher is a book by Kay Brigham. Columbus's objective was to open a route to evangelize the eastern orient and instead stumbled upon the Americas.  That is  why you see many mission ruins throughout the new world.  Saint James the Apostle of Spain evangelized to the west till he reached the ocean and could not go any further and Saint Christopher brought it past the ocean etc etc, history unfolds till all is said and done on earth as it is in heaven, this was his intention and priority.  Trade routes and human nature and politics were part of the east meets west as we are ALL imperfect when nations meet.  But the Church had its beautiful missions and message of Christ brought to them.  The result: the Virgin De Guadalupe and other things. Our quest and proclamation is not done until Christ returns.  

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    « Reply #37 on: July 01, 2010, 11:09:59 AM »
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    Sorry gentlemen that this has taunted such responses. Try focusing and prayer and set aside your hostility.   I also watched T2 and 2012 movies and other movies, yes I figured you guys wouldnt take to kindly with these books. Your paths are predictable.  Great books and great minds, we discern right and wrong like men should, as for wolves they will simply be wolves, reading the Bible in dissecting fashion and devour those that abide by it without even reading in such detail.  One step at a time will get us there, even the sheep with excessive pride.

    In the spirit of Christ I hold no hatred.  God Bless you for your doings are simply said and yet you claim to be Godly men.  I read a book and understood but you read a book and merely recall  for peripheral ego purposes demonstrated here in this blog and to attack others.  

    God Loves all, and will call on his sheep and they will hear whether they are currently protestant or of any other. He loves His sheep.  As for the goats they will hear the calling of their master, for he will have many items and belittlements and mockeries of the presumed lesser sheep to help you feel good in the wrong choice they will make. They will know what they are in the last period when the Holy Spirit is lifted from them and the pale rider rides out.

    God bless you guys.  Read the book its all there. I am sharing this book, again and again I say for whatever it is worth, "It is my best effort in interpreting this experience."


    you sound like a New Age Guru, try hawking your book somewhere else-FE might work, CA high probability.....
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    « Reply #38 on: July 01, 2010, 11:13:31 AM »
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     Favorite saints are: St Joan of Arc (for her courage amidst unbelieving wolves), St Michael, Fatima, St Christopher Columbus, St Juniper (my favorite you guys would love him and he you), Kabbalah, Carl Jung Psych...a variety of stuff.  Anyway guys stop with the hostile tones.
    Love you guys.  


    Fatima is not a saint, it is a palce-unless you mean Mohammed's daughter....Columbus-not canonized, died living with a woman he-to my knoweldge-never sacrementally married.....Jung and Kabbalah are anti-Catholic sources..hostile tones? really?

    you come here hawking a book and a site that has nothing to do with Tra Catholicism-hint, thats what this site is about!! and never answer anything, just sound like a new age guru....please answer Q&A or leave....
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    « Reply #39 on: July 01, 2010, 11:14:36 AM »
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    Spiritus you want questions answered but have already concluded rubbish by agreeing with Jamie ( a stranger you just agreed with out of the blue to support your true intentions)


    hey "writer" do the research, Jamie has posted here for a long while now....you are new....
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    « Reply #40 on: July 01, 2010, 11:16:09 AM »
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    Thank you gentlemen for the extreme critique.  
    Spiritus you want questions answered but have already concluded rubbish by agreeing with Jamie ( a stranger you just agreed with out of the blue to support your true intentions) and you want your list answered or else kinda stuff huh...?  Doesn't sound kind but hostile.  Relax the mind and focus, look past you critical selves...walk the walk etc.

    So look again, where I referred you to a link at jrcarri.com, also click on "about us" for details of what was revealed.  The book is my best effort to guiding readers to this experience.  This is my best effort to an experience that depressed me because of what it meant to me, and now it is in a book for interested readers.  A timetable is not perfect but "my best effort" given the rational person that I am, at best.    

    I wrote it as such because it introduces readers to it rather than this type of situation that I am in with you gentlemen.  It is my best effort in interpretation of the experience, it even has a timetable, "Left Behind and Tribulation kinda stuff, for some it is just entertainment perhaps.  $12 is not a whole lot of money, lunch money for some.  I don't mean to be taunting but you guys agreeing on "rubbish" that hurt.  

    I attend a Catholic Mass, eucharistic body and blood of Christ.  I like to read about St Francis, St John (kind of deep and hard to follow but I try), St Theresa.  Favorite saints are: St Joan of Arc (for her courage amidst unbelieving wolves), St Michael, Fatima, St Christopher Columbus, St Juniper (my favorite you guys would love him and he you), Kabbalah, Carl Jung Psych...a variety of stuff.  Anyway guys stop with the hostile tones.
    Love you guys.  


    Following the kabbalah excludes you from membership in the Catholic Church.  Jung was an idiot and no Catholic would consider him worth reading.

    Your words earlier show us exactly what you are - a novus ordo member with a novus ordo founding (read non-existent) in the true faith.  What is with this junk: "Relax the mind and focus, look past you critical selves"?  You can't relax the mind for a starter, and frankly, you are advising us to look past the heresy in the front of your book and "feel" what is right.  That is not what Catholics do.  It is was non-Catholics (and many novus ordo Catholics) do.

    This is a board for traditional Catholics - you will find little welcome here if you intend to spew modernistic emotional rubbish.


    New Age psycho-babble from him! obviously, no real apparition nor locution....phony as Bayside.....
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    « Reply #41 on: July 01, 2010, 11:18:50 AM »
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    God Loves all, and will call on his sheep and they will hear whether they are currently protestant or of any other.


    indiferentism! heresy!

    God calls, but calls to Himself and His only Church...that is the right path...
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    « Reply #42 on: July 01, 2010, 02:07:33 PM »
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  • Jaun, let's face facts. You are clearly a person that attends the Novus Ordo, you keep avoiding our questions, your viewpoints seem heretic and New Age, and you keep telling us to spend $12 on a book that speaks heresy several times just so you can make a profit. I don't think the Holy Ghost chose you to be a Prophet. It could have been your imagination or worse, it could have been a trick from Satan. Unless you're making this all up. Please answer our questions. I don't think anyone here will buy your book, especially since you won't even give us answers.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #43 on: July 01, 2010, 02:16:15 PM »
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    Raul
    Let him among you that is without sin cast the first stone.

    Every attempt bi those you presume not to submiT to excesses of knowledge filled with judgement is an opportunity for you to respond accordingly with thanks, gratitude and understanding.  After that you will see a joint and mutual submission when defenses come down. I am "sharing" not telling or preaching.  I've said, "Im sorry" and "Thank you" but still you shed shadows upon any attempts by me to have you shed some light and qualities of the Christian spirit.  

    WE and I and all of us have shadows, some darker than others.  "What are your shadows and how are they keeping you from seeing any light?" The latter quote is Kabbalah in essence it is a foundational inheritance or quality preceding Christianity.  It is a source in my quest for knowledge and wisdom as it is very much related to the old testament.  All of us have the Holy Spirit within us and we all feel and dream but are we listening to what is happening internally and prepared before you come out and address externally to others. It does not mean anyone person's perception is set in stone (like me) but we all move forward into the light by forgiveness and degrees of understanding, wisdom and rationale.  These are all gifts that we use to destroy and belittle rather than see.

    Anyway, I left a few typos and a taunting or two as a test for to to feed off of of in this posting in case you'd rather sling mud than the meaning and a thanks for sharing with us what you experienced and how you interpreted it.  

    PS: Just to share with you, my good friend, my source for Saint Christopher is a book by Kay Brigham. Columbus's objective was to open a route to evangelize the eastern orient and instead stumbled upon the Americas.  That is  why you see many mission ruins throughout the new world.  Saint James the Apostle of Spain evangelized to the west till he reached the ocean and could not go any further and Saint Christopher brought it past the ocean etc etc, history unfolds till all is said and done on earth as it is in heaven, this was his intention and priority.  Trade routes and human nature and politics were part of the east meets west as we are ALL imperfect when nations meet.  But the Church had its beautiful missions and message of Christ brought to them.  The result: the Virgin De Guadalupe and other things. Our quest and proclamation is not done until Christ returns.  


    Someone who canonizes their own saints is a heretic. If the author of that book does so, then he is a heretic. Christopher Columbus was a good man but didn't even have a position in the Church. Now someone like Archbishop LeFebvre can be called a saint because he will be one after the crisis in the Church is over. Columbus, on the other hand, lived hundreds of years ago and had no position in the Church except for being a lay person and to this day has not been canonized and never will be.

    Either way, Kabbalah should be avoided by Traditional Catholics no matter how you use that as an example. Some of the things you are saying sound very New Age. If you could please answer our questions maybe there wouldn't be so much confusion on this thread.
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    « Reply #44 on: July 01, 2010, 02:17:30 PM »
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    God Loves all, and will call on his sheep and they will hear whether they are currently protestant or of any other.


    indiferentism! heresy!

    God calls, but calls to Himself and His only Church...that is the right path...


    Exactly. God certainly isn't going to call someone to a religion that was created by the Devil. Catholicism is the true path.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.