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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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German women are Baptizing in Germany
« on: March 15, 2022, 05:54:27 AM »
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    • https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/1st-german-catholic-diocese-women-perform-baptisms-83440120

    BERLIN -- The Roman Catholic Diocese of Essen has become the first in Germany to allow women to perform baptisms, citing a lack of priests.

    The diocese said in a statement Monday that Bishop Franz-Josef Overbeck tasked 18 lay ministers —17 of them women — with conferring the sacrament of admission into the Church at a ceremony over the weekend.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #1 on: March 15, 2022, 07:13:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 15, 2022, 05:54:27 AM
    https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/1st-german-catholic-diocese-women-perform-baptisms-83440120

    BERLIN -- The Roman Catholic Diocese of Essen has become the first in Germany to allow women to perform baptisms, citing a lack of priests.

    Is there also a "lack of men" in Germany?  It would appear so.  How about "deacons"?  Every Novus Ordo parish has about a half dozen of them floating around.

    Obviously just an excuse.
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #2 on: March 15, 2022, 08:28:47 AM »
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    • That's dumb, but praise God that kids are still being baptized (hopefully validly)
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #3 on: March 15, 2022, 03:01:07 PM »
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    • Women can be extraordinary ministers of the sacrament, so of all the foolish things done in Germany, this cannot be the worst. It is probably meant in the sense of replacing the priest with laity, particularly women, that's how they are.
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #4 on: March 15, 2022, 03:20:31 PM »
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    • Slippery slope.
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #5 on: March 15, 2022, 05:30:56 PM »
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    • I give it a year before the German Church goes into full schism, if it isn't already there. Yes, technically women (or anyone) can baptize, but there's a whole host of even bigger problems.
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #6 on: March 16, 2022, 07:00:52 AM »
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    • Germany is the example of what is next for Catholicism globally. 

    They are already setting up bogus parish and diocesan meetings involving laity to make sodomy and women priests  the Church law. They are looking to Germany to lead. 
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #7 on: March 16, 2022, 07:55:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Minnesota on March 15, 2022, 05:30:56 PM
    I give it a year before the German Church goes into full schism, if it isn't already there. Yes, technically women (or anyone) can baptize, but there's a whole host of even bigger problems.

    They're already there.  They promote sodomy, divorce-remarriage-cohabitation, pretty much everything.

    That is, they're already in schism from the CATHOLIC Church.  Yet they find a friend and sympathizer in Bergoglio so they have no need to go into "schism" from him.
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #8 on: March 16, 2022, 07:57:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Prayerful on March 15, 2022, 03:01:07 PM
    Women can be extraordinary ministers of the sacrament, so of all the foolish things done in Germany, this cannot be the worst. It is probably meant in the sense of replacing the priest with laity, particularly women, that's how they are.

    They're already doing that.  In places where they claim not have enough priests (I wonder why they don't?), they have women "presiding" over a quasi-Mass like celebration that is basically a Mass with everything except the consecration.  Eventually they'll let them simulate that as well, until no one can tell the difference.  And maybe there isn't a difference.  Perhaps the NO Masses presided over by their "priests" is equally invalid.  So why not?
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #9 on: March 16, 2022, 07:59:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on March 15, 2022, 08:28:47 AM
    That's dumb, but praise God that kids are still being baptized (hopefully validly)

    When untrained (and likely Modernist) lay people are allowed to become "ordinary" ministers of the Sacrament, as it were, the presumption of validity goes out the window.  Church's presumptions regarding validity of the Sacraments rests on the presumption that the clergy who administer them are properly trained to do so.
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    Re: German women are Baptizing in Germany
    « Reply #10 on: March 16, 2022, 08:06:47 AM »
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    They're already there.  They promote sodomy, divorce-remarriage-cohabitation, pretty much everything.
    And that's for the people who consider themselves catholic.  Many, many Germans even in the southern parts of Bavaria (which is historically catholic), don't even go to church.
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