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Offline Matthew

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Re: St. Dominic’s is a new TLM (pre-1962 Missal) Chapel in Orange County, CA
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2022, 09:33:13 PM »
Pre -'55 Missal would be a more accurate title/description

Why?
I never understood that.

I've heard this many times, so I'm not just picking on you. But since you brought it up, I HAVE to know.

Pre-1962 would seem to be the MOST accurate. Please explain why that is not so.

Re: St. Dominic’s is a new TLM (pre-1962 Missal) Chapel in Orange County, CA
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2022, 02:47:48 AM »
Subject:  The crucial, vital ongoing question that need to be answered is - Is "Fr." Michael Wiest a priest or an imposter and the consequences thereof:

Bottom line is this.! After all this time in seeking the truth about this man, Mr. Michael Wiese, and getting nowhere, I now feel and am calling that this man should be investigated and interrogated by the authorities, namely the Garden Grove Police!  My reasoning is this:  There is a term police and the authorities use when deciding to investigate or question a suspicious person for any kind of possible suspicious activity and that term is "probable cause." It is my opinion and I feel that there is enough "probable cause" here with Michael Wiese that he should be questioned by the police for the following reasons:

1 - Here is a man who desires to interact with children (alter boys) yet when asked to show his drivers license HE ADAMANTLY REFUSED TO DO SO!! Why?  Isn't that a "red flag?"  Shouldn't that bother the parents of Padre Pio Academy at OLHC? Shouldn't they be up in arms that this man refuses to show his license and chooses not to give ANY information regarding where he was as a priest before coming to OLHC? Where was he ordained? What bishop ordained him?  What seminary did he attend? THERE IS NO ABSOLUTELY INFORMATION AVAILABLE ABOUT THIS MAN AT ALL! Why isn't there a mass rebellion and outcry to find out the reasons why this man refuses to show docuмentation about himself (particularly from OLHC parents who have children in the school) and the OLHC faithful who are very smart educated traditionalists.  What is wrong here?

2. There does not exist nor is there ANY information on any background check services for an individual named "Michael Wiese." Check it yourself!  The is NO information and nothing comes up AT ALL with this man's name in the most powerful search engine GOOGLE! WHY?
3.  Why doesn't the "Board" want to know anything of the background of this man particularly for the reasons that if, in the end, it turns out that he is not a priest that they would be legally and grossly liable.  In addition, they would be considered an "accessory" for providing "cover" for this man for failing and refusing to do due diligence on him and deliberately blocking any effort to legitimately seek proof of his identity as a priest!

The mystery is that he says all the right things from pulpit thus appearing to be legitimate and he definitely knows his way around the alter and the Mass BUT he will not reveal where he was as a priest previously!  Doesn't this bother anyone else?  In addition, he has been grossly abusive, vicious, angry, uncharitable, back-biting and hateful towards Fr. Starbuck! Why is that? This does not integrate with the way he presents himself on the alter podium as a nice, gentle, all-wise, advise giving and charitable "priest"?

By the way, how would the faithful feel if it turns out this man indeed is not an ordained priest and that they have been going to confession to him and have been duped into believing that they have been receiving the Body & Blood of Christ only  find out that this man is a scam?  I know how I would feel.  I have gone to confession to him and thought I was receiving a valid sacraments from him.  If I found out that I was scammed,  I would be outraged and repulsed that I was duped by this man and the OLHC Board!  If that turned out to be the case, I feel a class action suit from all the faithful of OLHC to this man and "The Board" would be in order. Lastly, I ask that if anyone who is reading this thread and is a police officer or knows a person in authority can possibly respond and advise this tread if they feel that there is "probable cause" here.  Of course,only  God knows the truth and I am just expressing my opinions and legitimate questions here.

Lastly, If I am in fact wrong here and am shown the facts with solid evidence that I'm wrong, I would humbly and willingly acknowledged that to be the case and I would attempt to seek Christ-like harmony and peace to all involved. I just want the Truth!


Offline Matthew

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Re: St. Dominic’s is a new TLM (pre-1962 Missal) Chapel in Orange County, CA
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2022, 03:51:10 AM »
As for their choice of chapel name --

I can only say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Apparently I made St. Dominic "cool".

Normally I wouldn't assume my reach is that large. And I realize St. Dominic was one of the founders of a major religious order. Nevertheless, how many St. Dominic's Chapels are there in Tradition, before the one started in Seguin in 2014?

Notice I got the domain name. That says a lot right there. And no I didn't buy it off anybody.

Not St Dominic's parish, or St. Dominic's church -- StDominicsChapel. What a *traditional chapel* named after St. Dominic would be called. And not .us, .org, .church or some other hard-to-remember extension. We're talking the famous, 1st choice .com suffix.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any SSPX chapels named after St. Dominic? And isn't this Traditional chapel only the 2nd one in the United States to be named after that saint? Maybe there is a Sede chapel(s) named after him; I don't know. I'm not very familiar with the Sede world.

Re: St. Dominic’s is a new TLM (pre-1962 Missal) Chapel in Orange County, CA
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2022, 09:32:41 AM »

... Correction.  On second thought I feel the terms "investigated and interrogated" is too strong a term.  "Simply question" is more appropriate.

Re: St. Dominic’s is a new TLM (pre-1962 Missal) Chapel in Orange County, CA
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2022, 11:17:36 AM »
Subject:  The crucial, vital ongoing question that need to be answered is - Is "Fr." Michael Wiest a priest or an imposter and the consequences thereof:

Bottom line is this.! After all this time in seeking the truth about this man, Mr. Michael Wiese, and getting nowhere, I now feel and am calling that this man should be investigated and interrogated by the authorities, namely the Garden Grove Police!  My reasoning is this:  There is a term police and the authorities use when deciding to investigate or question a suspicious person for any kind of possible suspicious activity and that term is "probable cause." It is my opinion and I feel that there is enough "probable cause" here with Michael Wiese that he should be questioned by the police for the following reasons:

1 - Here is a man who desires to interact with children (alter boys) yet when asked to show his drivers license HE ADAMANTLY REFUSED TO DO SO!! Why?  Isn't that a "red flag?"  Shouldn't that bother the parents of Padre Pio Academy at OLHC? Shouldn't they be up in arms that this man refuses to show his license and chooses not to give ANY information regarding where he was as a priest before coming to OLHC? Where was he ordained? What bishop ordained him?  What seminary did he attend? THERE IS NO ABSOLUTELY INFORMATION AVAILABLE ABOUT THIS MAN AT ALL! Why isn't there a mass rebellion and outcry to find out the reasons why this man refuses to show docuмentation about himself (particularly from OLHC parents who have children in the school) and the OLHC faithful who are very smart educated traditionalists.  What is wrong here?

2. There does not exist nor is there ANY information on any background check services for an individual named "Michael Wiese." Check it yourself!  The is NO information and nothing comes up AT ALL with this man's name in the most powerful search engine GOOGLE! WHY?
3.  Why doesn't the "Board" want to know anything of the background of this man particularly for the reasons that if, in the end, it turns out that he is not a priest that they would be legally and grossly liable.  In addition, they would be considered an "accessory" for providing "cover" for this man for failing and refusing to do due diligence on him and deliberately blocking any effort to legitimately seek proof of his identity as a priest!

The mystery is that he says all the right things from pulpit thus appearing to be legitimate and he definitely knows his way around the alter and the Mass BUT he will not reveal where he was as a priest previously!  Doesn't this bother anyone else?  In addition, he has been grossly abusive, vicious, angry, uncharitable, back-biting and hateful towards Fr. Starbuck! Why is that? This does not integrate with the way he presents himself on the alter podium as a nice, gentle, all-wise, advise giving and charitable "priest"?

By the way, how would the faithful feel if it turns out this man indeed is not an ordained priest and that they have been going to confession to him and have been duped into believing that they have been receiving the Body & Blood of Christ only  find out that this man is a scam?  I know how I would feel.  I have gone to confession to him and thought I was receiving a valid sacraments from him.  If I found out that I was scammed,  I would be outraged and repulsed that I was duped by this man and the OLHC Board!  If that turned out to be the case, I feel a class action suit from all the faithful of OLHC to this man and "The Board" would be in order. Lastly, I ask that if anyone who is reading this thread and is a police officer or knows a person in authority can possibly respond and advise this tread if they feel that there is "probable cause" here.  Of course,only  God knows the truth and I am just expressing my opinions and legitimate questions here.

Lastly, If I am in fact wrong here and am shown the facts with solid evidence that I'm wrong, I would humbly and willingly acknowledged that to be the case and I would attempt to seek Christ-like harmony and peace to all involved. I just want the Truth!
the truth is, you may never know.
call the CA school board and tell them Padre Pio has not vetted an employee.  Maybe they will do something.