Author Topic: SSPX Status (Read 1119 times)

John Grace · « **on:** May 15, 2012, 07:17:24 AM »

Very important piece here.

http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=9446

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Dear PI mom,

The real governing body of SSPX is its priests and its General Chapter.

This is because SSPX is not a legally constituted organization within the Church.

It is merely a voluntary association of Catholic priests without religious vows.

From 1970-1975, in a trial period, it held a very lowly canonical status within the Church that is called a pious union. That canonical status came to an end and was not renewed.

The General Chapter consists of the Superior General, his two Assistants, Secretary General, Bursar General, previous Superior Generals, Bishops, District Superiors, Seminary Rectors, Superiors of Autonomous Houses, and a number of longest-serving priests engaged in SSPX to the ratio of 3:1, so if there are 30 Superiors by office they will be joined by 10 priests of longest-standing membership of SSPX.

The General Chapter meets every twelve years to elect a new Superior General and his two assistants to govern, on their behalf, the day-to-day running of SSPX. It also meets at the half-way point during any Superior General's term of office, and it could be called at any time in extraordinary circuмstances.

A Superior General could, theoretically, act unilaterally if his decision was accepted. He normally confers with his General Council who are elected to help guide him and keep him up-to-date with information that is relevant to any decision making on behalf of SSPX.

A wise Superior General will act upon the advice and decisions of the General Chapter because they put him there to act on their behalf and could just as easily depose him if they had the will to do so.

The reality is that decisions of the Superior General of SSPX are only binding in as far as the members of SSPX allow them to be.

It is a voluntary association that has no legal status.

Mysterium Fidei · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2012, 07:45:42 AM »

Then the three remaining Bishops need to rise up right now and make as much public resistance as possible if they want to save the Society from being swallowed up by the Modernist Beast.

Could they call for a General Chapter meeting to boot Fellay out of the Society? Could they use the court system to somehow get an injunction to delay any agreement until they can get rid of Fellay? Now is not the time for the remaining 3 to sit quietly on the sidelines and wait the outcome of Fellay’s courting of the Modernists.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2012, 05:47:14 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

Very important piece here.

http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=9446
Quote
Dear PI mom,

The real governing body of SSPX is its priests and its General Chapter.

This is because SSPX is not a legally constituted organization within the Church.

It is merely a voluntary association of Catholic priests without religious vows.

From 1970-1975, in a trial period, it held a very lowly canonical status within the Church that is called a pious union. That canonical status came to an end and was not renewed.

The General Chapter consists of the Superior General, his two Assistants, Secretary General, Bursar General, previous Superior Generals, Bishops, District Superiors, Seminary Rectors, Superiors of Autonomous Houses, and a number of longest-serving priests engaged in SSPX to the ratio of 3:1, so if there are 30 Superiors by office they will be joined by 10 priests of longest-standing membership of SSPX.

The General Chapter meets every twelve years to elect a new Superior General and his two assistants to govern, on their behalf, the day-to-day running of SSPX. It also meets at the half-way point during any Superior General's term of office, and it could be called at any time in extraordinary circuмstances.

A Superior General could, theoretically, act unilaterally if his decision was accepted. He normally confers with his General Council who are elected to help guide him and keep him up-to-date with information that is relevant to any decision making on behalf of SSPX.

A wise Superior General will act upon the advice and decisions of the General Chapter because they put him there to act on their behalf and could just as easily depose him if they had the will to do so.

The reality is that decisions of the Superior General of SSPX are only binding in as far as the members of SSPX allow them to be.

It is a voluntary association that has no legal status.

Ah, but one also needs to recognize that, quite apart from its religious standing, the SSPX is legally a corporation, insofar as the administration of its assets and holdings, most especially its real estate, are concerned. While I cannot speak definitively, I would question which entity within the Society holds the legal authority over the assets, whether the office of the Superior General or the General Chapter as a whole. The point being that, while the Three and the non-capitulant clergy and laity may spiritually resist or break communion with Fellay and his ilk, it remains to be seen what legal right they have to continue usage of the Society's facilities should the split come to pass (something that I consider to be imminent). I applaud the Three and all those members of the Society that stand firm against the betrayal of Fellay et al, but I question whether the bark can be backed with with a bite.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2012, 08:26:32 PM »

Certainly the 3 other bishops would like to see this resolved amicably without getting into any ugly and public battles with +Fellay. Wouldn't we all?

But the real world we live in is another kind of thing. There are legalities involved. There are financial holdings and real estate worldwide to consider. These things cannot be overlooked out of a desire for "let's all get along." Too many times fortunes pass into the wrong hands merely because they're the hands that hired a lawyer first.

+Fellay has made it no secret for decades now that he greatly esteems unity with Rome, and it would seem he has hinted that such an end is somehow worth some small degree of compromise. But in principle, no compromise is ever okay when it comes to doctrine.

All of our most dedicated efforts falling short, however, this may ultimately become a matter resolvable only by the intervention of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Enough said................. :reporter: