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Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI Will Join in the Consecration of Russia and Ukraine

CNA Staff
Vatican
March 21, 2022
VATICAN CITY — Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI will join with Pope Francis and the bishops of the world in praying for the consecration of Russia and Ukraine on March 25.

He will do so privately, however, and will not be present at the consecration ceremony at St. Peter’s Basilica.....

Good enough.  If, by some chance, the "Benevacantists" are right, and he is indeed still the Pope, then you have a Pope, you have the bishops (though not consciously in union with Benedict, except for possibly Archbishop Lenga in Poland), then, very possibly, you have the consecration.

Barnhardt's argument (she's Bennyvacantist) is that Ratzinger would have to be visibly present.  Not sure if she'll amend that to (he could be morally present).

I don't get why people insert these extra requirements?  Our Lady never said where anyone had to be, or not be, whether sitting or standing, whether at a certain time, on a certain day, neither raining or sunshine.  She simply asked for the consecration, in union with the bishops.  She never said everyone had to be in the same room, or city, or even country (which, is obviously not feasible, because even an ecuмenical council never has 100% attendance due to old age, sickness, etc).

Well, she did say that the POPE had to PERFORM the consecration.  So given her belief that Ratzinger is the pope, she holds that he would have to DO the consecration.  Currently she's saying it would suffice for him to be visibly present (if they [her phrase] rolled him out in a wheelchair while Bergoglio did it).

She also said in union with ALL the bishops (not just in union with the bishops, as you put it).

So you missed two aspect of what Our Lady said, that the Pope had to do it (you just said it had to be done) and that ALL the bishops had to do it (you just had "the bishops").

Well, she did say that the POPE had to PERFORM the consecration.  So given her belief that Ratzinger is the pope, she holds that he would have to DO the consecration.  Currently she's saying it would suffice for him to be visibly present (if they [her phrase] rolled him out in a wheelchair while Bergoglio did it).

She also said in union with ALL the bishops (not just in union with the bishops, as you put it).

So you missed two aspect of what Our Lady said, that the Pope had to do it (you just said it had to be done) and that ALL the bishops had to do it (you just had "the bishops").

I was not intending to minimize these requirements.

But, back to the "being present" phrase...everyone (Francis, Benedict, whatever bishops take part in this) is reading the same consecration formula, including Benedict, so how does Benedict's location matter?  He'll be reading the same prayer/consecration as Francis.

I was not intending to minimize these requirements.

But, back to the "being present" phrase...everyone (Francis, Benedict, whatever bishops take part in this) is reading the same consecration formula, including Benedict, so how does Benedict's location matter?  He'll be reading the same prayer/consecration as Francis.

I don't think his location should matter.  That's why I speculated about whether she might revise her criterion that he had to be visibly present.

I don't get why people insert these extra requirements?  Our Lady never said where anyone had to be, or not be, whether sitting or standing, whether at a certain time, on a certain day, neither raining or sunshine.  She simply asked for the consecration, in union with the bishops.  She never said everyone had to be in the same room, or city, or even country (which, is obviously not feasible, because even an ecuмenical council never has 100% attendance due to old age, sickness, etc).

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the word "assembled" was part of it...which, if correct, clearly means present.

Addendum: I just learned that the Instagram post is directly copied from his Sunday Angelus. Not trying to give credit to the "consecration", but it did mention the Immaculate Heart.

Here's the full quote:


"Consecrations of humanity" (or something like that) to the Immaculate Heart were already performed by Popes before Vatican II.

I think this "consecration of humanity" on Friday will only serve as Rome's excuse to reject future requests of the true consecration of Russia. In a few years, or maybe even next year, when some bishops request it again, they'll just say "it has already been done in 2022".

I invite every community and all the faithful to unite with me on Friday 25 March, the Solemnity of the Annunciation, for the Solemn Act of Consecration of humanity, especially Russia and Ukraine, to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, so that she, the Queen of Peace, may help us obtain peace.

LOL.  So he's not only "inviting" the bishops, he's inviting all.  What a joke.

Assembled would imply formality, ie a Bishop should pray this in his diocesan chapel and not sitting at home on his couch.  But i've only ever read "in union with" and not assembled.  If the word "assembled" was used, then that would imply a location is required also.  Assembled where?  In Rome?  Or Fatima?  Or Russia?  But no location was mentioned so I don't think assembled was part of the original request.

Yes, I may be wrong.  I can't remember where I saw that word.  Perhaps in another post here or elsewhere?  I don't know.  

Regardless, how would anyone know whether all of the bishops have taken part if they aren't present?  I am beginning to wonder whether this is why it was never done.