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SSPX scandal goes global
« on: June 17, 2022, 03:54:14 PM »
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    • Abuse and cover-up have marred the Catholic Church, and traditional communities aren't exempt. In tonight's In-Depth Report, senior producer Christine Niles exposes "trad" abuse on the Dark Continent.

    Bishop Bernard Fellay has never owned up to facilitating sex abuse.

    Longtime former head of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) — a breakaway traditional priestly group — Fellay routinely transferred predator priests to new assignments, where they often went on to abuse again.

    Case in point: Fr. Damian Carlile, an Australian priest who got his early start in the 1990s at the SSPX mission in Gabon, Africa.

    Jacques: "I know at least six other victims, but they don't want to talk. I know that many of us have been abused." 

    One of his alleged victims, given the alias "Jacques," revealed Carlile's modus operandi.
    Jacques: "It was Damian who started the sɛҳuąƖ touching on me, around 1992 or 1993. … It started when we went to the beach. First, very discreetly, giving me my towel and helping me to wipe myself, he took the opportunity to touch my private parts." 

    Carlile worked in tandem with Fr. Patrick Groche, superior of the Gabonese mission and longtime collaborator with SSPX founder Abp. Marcel Lefebvre.

    François: "I was sɛҳuąƖly abused by Fr. Patrick Groche, a close collaborator of Abp. Lefebvre and founder of the St. Pius X mission in Gabon. The events occurred in Gabon in Libreville, but also in France, in his family home in Besançon, and also in a Society school."

    Bishop Fellay knew about abuse allegations against both priests as far back as the 2000s and did what he always does — hiding them away for a time before restoring them to priestly ministry.

    He has a track record of doing this.
    He did it with Fr. Philippe Peignot, found guilty by an SSPX canonical court of abusing multiple boys in France.

    He did it with Fr. Christophe Roisnel, found guilty of torturing and raping multiple teachers at a French SSPX academy.

    He did it with Swiss priest Frédéric Abbet, a known pedophile Fellay placed under the same roof as boys (whom he abused).

    And he did it with Fr. Damian Carlile, transferring him from Gabon to New Zealand, where the priest abused again.
    All of this abuse can be placed directly at the feet of Bp. Fellay, yet he has never publicly acknowledged his role in destroying innocent lives and souls, continuing his pious façade in comfortable retirement at the $40 million SSPX seminary in Virginia.

    Meanwhile, the victims whose lives he helped destroy are left to pick up the pieces.
    Church Militant contacted Bp. Fellay for comment on this report. As usual, we were met with silence.


    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/sspx-scandal-goes-global
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #1 on: June 17, 2022, 03:55:21 PM »
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    • CM have been on an anti-SSPX bent forever.
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #2 on: June 17, 2022, 03:56:46 PM »
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #3 on: June 17, 2022, 04:04:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 17, 2022, 03:55:21 PM
    CM have been on an anti-SSPX bent forever.
    I thank God CM has been exposing perv sspx priests and the sspx hierarchy who hide the perv priests.  It sure helps me protect my family, and forces the sspx to do something rather than just move the perv priests from one school to another.
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    « Reply #4 on: June 17, 2022, 04:05:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 17, 2022, 03:56:46 PM
    Deport him
    Send him to the Phillipines.  They'll know what to do with him.
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #5 on: June 17, 2022, 04:19:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on June 17, 2022, 04:04:40 PM
    I thank God CM has been exposing perv sspx priests and the sspx hierarchy who hide the perv priests.  It sure helps me protect my family, and forces the sspx to do something rather than just move the perv priests from one school to another.
    Whether true or not, CM is not to be trusted. There were at least a dozen good priests back in the day that we knew personally who stayed trad, and were rewarded with being falsely smeared and sent off to timbuktoo. Since then, "wanna smear a priest? just accuse them of perversion." CM would not hesitate when it comes to the SSPX, imo.
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #6 on: June 17, 2022, 04:21:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on June 17, 2022, 04:19:44 PM
    Whether true or not, CM is not to be trusted. There were at least a dozen good priests back in the day that we knew personally who stayed trad, and were rewarded with being falsely smeared and sent off to timbuktoo. Since then, "wanna smear a priest? just accuse them of perversion." CM would not hesitate when it comes to the SSPX, imo.
    Were they falsely accused by CM?
    I trust few people these days.
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #7 on: June 17, 2022, 04:32:41 PM »
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    • CM cannot be trusted. Their target is not the individual priest offender, but tradition itself, in particular SSPX' s founder.


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    Carlile worked in tandem with Fr. Patrick Groche, superior of the Gabonese mission and longtime collaborator with SSPX founder Abp. Marcel Lefebvre.

    François: "I was sɛҳuąƖly abused by Fr. Patrick Groche, a close collaborator of Abp. Lefebvre and founder of the St. Pius X mission in Gabon. 


    I too find them very much "on the nose". 
    Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 17, 2022, 03:55:21 PM
    CM have been on an anti-SSPX bent forever.
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #8 on: June 17, 2022, 05:23:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 17, 2022, 03:55:21 PM
    CM have been on an anti-SSPX bent forever.

    Anti-SSPX, yes, unless you’re a SSPX layperson running for MI governor. 

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/catholics-fighting-communism
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #9 on: June 17, 2022, 05:34:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: SperaInDeo on June 17, 2022, 05:23:19 PM
    Anti-SSPX, yes, unless you’re a SSPX layperson running for MI governor.

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/catholics-fighting-communism
    You cannot really be an SSPX layperson, though a layperson could attend the Mass of SSPX.

    I prefer not to watch this video, so can you tell me if there is any mention of SSPX and tradition in the video? 
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #10 on: June 17, 2022, 06:03:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on June 17, 2022, 05:34:21 PM
    You cannot really be an SSPX layperson, though a layperson could attend the Mass of SSPX.

    I prefer not to watch this video, so can you tell me if there is any mention of SSPX and tradition in the video?

    If I recall correctly, Voris said that the candidate “attends the Latin Mass”. No mention of where, but there’s no way that Voris or his handlers didn’t know. 

    We are in the same boat - I can’t stomach watching it again. So that’s all you’re getting! :laugh2:
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #11 on: June 17, 2022, 07:27:21 PM »
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    • Consider the source.
    Michael Voris only came out about his active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past after he found out that Cardinal Dolan was going to out him after MV's attacks on the homos in the NY Archdiocese.
    Also MV completely aware that Simon Rafe, longtime employee of of CM, was exposed for writing fantasy bisɛҳuąƖ porn online in 2009. Apparently they gave Mr Rafe a desk job off camera for a while but then brought him back front and center( on camera) where he still works today. Why wasn't this perv fired?
    I'm not saying that this SSPX story isn't true- it may very well be, but people in glass houses...........
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #12 on: June 17, 2022, 07:30:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on June 17, 2022, 07:27:21 PM
    Consider the source.
    Michael Voris only came out about his active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past after he found out that Cardinal Dolan was going to out him after MV's attacks on the homos in the NY Archdiocese.
    Also MV completely aware that Simon Rafe, longtime employee of of CM, was exposed for writing fantasy bisɛҳuąƖ porn online in 2009. Apparently they gave Mr Rafe a desk job off camera for a while but then brought him back front and center( on camera) where he still works today. Why wasn't this perv fired?
    I'm not saying that this story isn't true- it may very well be, but people in glass houses...........

    I could see Voris not wanting to disclose his past sins publicly, but indeed the Rafe situation is very disturbing and makes me suspicious.  Did Rafe has some dirt on Voris perhaps not having all his sins be in his "past"?  Something stinks there.
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #13 on: June 17, 2022, 07:33:54 PM »
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    Re: SSPX scandal goes global
    « Reply #14 on: June 17, 2022, 08:44:09 PM »
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    • Nobody should go to Voris for anything



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    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]
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