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Online Ladislaus

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #285 on: November 21, 2022, 09:59:06 AM »
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  • As you are all pondering the abominable Stafki abuse and the reporting timeline issued by Fullerton, I hope you keep in mind they are all liars and that I did my best to help you protect your loved-ones.

    No, they're not ALL liars.  Some of them are, or else they've come up with some justification in their minds for why they should limit the spread of information.

    That info I received about the Priest's meeting about the Stafki situation indicates that they believe it to be "detraction" to spread info far and wide among those who don't have a compelling interest to know the details.  Perhaps that's more a rationalization for covering up and the only "reputation" they're worried about is that of the SSPX, and not so much of Stafki.  I think that there's a massive rationalization taking place here, but I believe only a small handful are possibly directly and consciously lying.

    Now, for all the talk that these perps should be reported to the secular authorities, there was actually a big controversy about that in the Church, where the Church maintained that the secular authorities should not have jurisdiction over clergy.  Of course, back then, the Vatican had its own jail for clerics, etc. and various offices like that of the Inquisition could even issue death penalties for clerics.  So, since that's no longer the case, there's really no other alternative but to turn them over to the secular authorities.  But knowledge of the Church's prerogatives over the clergy might also somehow factor into their thinking and their mindset.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #286 on: November 21, 2022, 01:00:00 PM »
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  • Here is some news that I could not say sooner because I did not have it visually, factually confirmed: Arzuaga was moved from the French District to Argentina over TWO YEARS ago. That is about the time the Remnant ran my story so Michael Matt could defend himself against the spurious charge that I "called him out".

    Isn't strange how Arzuaga remained on the French website until 5 mos. ago and does not appear on the Argentinian website?

    Easter, 2022 I got a call from Pfluger out of the blue. I immediately confronted him with this discrepancy and at first he claimed not to have that information as he is just a lowly, unimportant priest. Then after a few minutes he says, "Oh, here I have the roster. No, Arzuaga is not listed." "But he has been seen by the faithful saying Mass and working in parishes in Argentina. You were supposed to tell me when he moved," I insisted. Then, he proceeded to grill me, asking if I was working with Church Militant. I just laughed.

    As you are all pondering the abominable Stafki abuse and the reporting timeline issued by Fullerton, I hope you keep in mind they are all liars and that I did my best to help you protect your loved-ones.

    Erica, thank you for sharing your story and exposing this predator priest and the subsequent cover-up by the SSPX. 





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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #287 on: November 21, 2022, 04:07:51 PM »
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    jr1991: Erica, thank you for sharing your story and exposing this predator priest and the subsequent cover-up by the SSPX. 


    Yes, Erica, thank you.  I haven't followed this now 20 page thread, which began way back in 2020.  And I'm not about to.  But I thought Fr. Arzuaga was completely out of the picture.  You mean that Arzuaga was still in the SSPX French district until he was moved to Argentina two years ago?  You mean that this "priest" has remained in the SSPX all that time.  I'm reading this all wrong, aren't I.  Someone please tell me that I've got this all wrong.:confused:

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #288 on: November 21, 2022, 06:37:48 PM »
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    ME: Yes, Erica, thank you.  I haven't followed this now 20 page thread, which began way back in 2020.  And I'm not about to.  But I thought Fr. Arzuaga was completely out of the picture.  You mean that Arzuaga was still in the SSPX French district until he was moved to Argentina two years ago?  You mean that this "priest" has remained in the SSPX all that time.  I'm reading this all wrong, aren't I.  Someone please tell me that I've got this all wrong.
    Apologies.  The part in bold above is incorrect.  Of course I followed the original topic and made several contributions to it.  Erica shares a new gem of information, and brings the whole Arzuaga affair back to mind.  I thought Arzuaga had disappeared into thin air, and that he had even fallen off the SSPX radar.  Apparently not so.  

    Online Ladislaus

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #289 on: November 21, 2022, 10:43:17 PM »
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  • Fr. Arzuaga sinned gravely against the chastity / celibacy required of priests, but it is yet to be established that he was a predator or rapist.  I don't think anyone (except CM and those who want to buy it) believe the story that Erica continued to tolerate Fr. Arzuaga entering her quarters to rape her since he somehow had a copy of her key.  Clearly the simplest solution would have been to change the locks ... even if Erica had not the courage to report the rapes to the authorities or to his superiors.  I can't imagine laying there every night thinking, "Is Arzuaga going to show up tonight to rape me again?"  While not every woman has the fortitude of a St. Maria Goretti, to give her life rather than engage in activities contrary to purity, this would be the extreme opposite end of the spectrum, where even the slightest bit of resistance was not given.  Who wouldn't AT LEAST get the locks changed or just move somewhere else?  Surely one could find someone that could take her in somewhere else.  There are women's shelters out there.  Or had she confided in some friend of hers in the area, I'm sure they would have put her up until a solution could be found.  As far as I can tell, the most plausible explanation is that this entire sordid affair was entirely consensual.  Obviously Fr. Arzuaga is still guilty of grave sin, and so would Erica have been, by the way, but he would not in that case qualify as a predator.  One could argue that he should have been sent to a monastery due to the violation of priestly celibacy, and he probably should have been, but then perhaps someone bought his version of events, perhaps to the effect that Erica seduced him and that he fell into sin, and determined that he was needed by the faithful despite his sinfulness.  Certainly priests have fallen into sins against celibacy / chastity in the past and have been rehabilitated to the point that they could serve the faithful. 

    Unfortunately, it's rather common for women to fall into sins of impurity with men, regret it later, and then impose this regret onto the original incidents, engaging in an emotional revisionism, declaring them to have been against her will even at the time, and to accuse the man of rape.  Because I regret it now, surely I was unwilling then also.  Therefore rape.  Or sometimes it happens that the woman is reluctant (perhaps conflicted between wanting to engage in the sinful activity and being guilty about committing the sin, especially with a priest), but gives in, and this reluctance is retrospectively revised into an unwillingness at the time of the incident.  Her regret NOW would be superimposed retroactively on the incident(s) and translated into, "I was unwilling" then, even to, "I said no," and yet he went ahead anyway.


    Online Ladislaus

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #290 on: November 21, 2022, 11:03:50 PM »
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  • As you are all pondering the abominable Stafki abuse and the reporting timeline issued by Fullerton, I hope you keep in mind they are all liars and that I did my best to help you protect your loved-ones.

    Ah, is that so?  Church Militant says otherwise --
    https://www.churchmilitant.com/a-response-to-erica-kauffman

    So Kauffman told her story to CM, but then before the story could air, she got cold feet and asked them not to publish it.  That sounds to me like someone who made the whole thing up and then got scared that it would be exposed as a lie.  Maybe even she realized how preposterous it was to have claimed that she wouldn't even changed the locks to prevent Arzuaga from repeatedly raping her.  In fact, it's right there in the text exchange with CM that she's concerned that everyone would call her a liar.

    I do agree with her that Father Kenneth Novak was smeared by association, where CM insinuated (though did not explicitly state) that he was breaking apart marriages by having affairs with the wives involved, and it's true that the only evidence against Fr. Angles were the statements of a young man who is tragically no longer alive.  Predators like that rarely stop at a single victim, and surely more accusations would have surfaced regarding Father Angles.  And CM has implemented a #metoo policy where every allegation of abuse or impropriety of the SSPX and/or SSPX priests is considered to be factually true based on the allegation alone, and that to question any accusation would constitute a grave injustice to the alleged victims.

    CM has been completely unjust this way, ready to believe any an all allegations, whether credible or not, out of spite for the SSPX and Traditional Catholicism.

    But that's a separate issue.

    For someone wanting to protect future victims, why didn't you let CM run with your story to put out the alert against this predator rapist Father Arzuaga?  This doesn't sound to me like you "did [your] best".

    If this had happened to me, and it were true, I wouldn't care if people called me a liar.  I would accept that on the off chance that my warnings might prevent someone in the future from suffering the same.  But then, of course, I would have changed the locks on my door.  You could simply have gone to the apartment landlord, say that an unauthorized man was entering your room because he had a key and raping you, and I'm sure the apartment landlord would immediately have complied, at the very least to prevent a lawsuit over not having acted when informed.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #291 on: November 21, 2022, 11:12:24 PM »
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  • Absolutely. And they should be reported ASAP and dealt with immediately, not years later.

    Yes, "should"…………………………… but "often are not."

    Often not reported immediately………… and even when reported immediately, often not investigated, prosecuted, or punished immediately.

    Sad fact.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #292 on: November 21, 2022, 11:19:18 PM »
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  • No, you did not do anything to help protect anyone. You railed against all here who didn't agree with your bullying tactics.

    Despicable and typical of your hysterical accusations when someone disagrees with you.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #293 on: November 21, 2022, 11:33:05 PM »
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  • hollingsworth,

    That has to be the biggest load of utter garbage I've ever seen posted here.  Matthew should consider banning you.…

    No, yours is the garbage.

    Hollingsworth lived through the series of Post Falls crimes and the cover-up. He reported and fought against the evils.

    There are others of us here (yes, plural) who have personally reported and personally fought such evils elsewhere.

    The perpetrators, enablers, and the accomplices who soft soap for same deserve our just anger and opprobrium.

    Your habitual ad hominem is as tiring as it is despicable.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #294 on: November 21, 2022, 11:38:15 PM »
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  • Ah, is that so?  Church Militant says otherwise --
    https://www.churchmilitant.com/a-response-to-erica-kauffman

    So Kauffman told her story to CM, but then before the story could air, she got cold feet and asked them not to publish it.  That sounds to me like someone who made the whole thing up and then got scared that it would be exposed as a lie.  Maybe even she realized how preposterous it was to have claimed that she wouldn't even changed the locks to prevent Arzuaga from repeatedly raping her.  In fact, it's right there in the text exchange with CM that she's concerned that everyone would call her a liar.

    Mr. Ladislaus, you are a pitiful man. Yes, Ms. Niles has a bone to pick with me; a grudge she can't let go. We had a production dispute after the interview. We had a pre-interview agreement which Niles changed verbally after the interview. You conclude that makes me a liar; but then I created a lengthy video (with follow-up videos) and posted them on You-Tube. In these videos I explain the key, the locks, the police ... all of it. If you had watched them you might not be so blind. But here you are with more victim blaming and keyboard vomit. I suppose you are going to blame the Stafki family somehow for the priest abusing his own niece for three years. I guess in your mind she should have told her father the first time. You make me sick. I don't know how you are so popular around here. It says a lot about this board.

    Apologies.  The part in bold above is incorrect.  Of course I followed the original topic and made several contributions to it.  Erica shares a new gem of information, and brings the whole Arzuaga affair back to mind.  I thought Arzuaga had disappeared into thin air, and that he had even fallen off the SSPX radar.  Apparently not so. 


    Mr. Hollingsworth: Arzuaga has remained a priest in good standing with the SSPX since his ordination in 1988 in La Reja; except for the three years he spent in Mexico working for CMRI. After fathering a child there and having caused the death of Bishop Carmona and another priest as the insane driver of the vehicle they were in, Arzuaga was given the boot from CMRI and came crawling back to SSPX in 1991 who welcomed him with open arms. Peter Scott sent Arzuaga to St. Louis where he did too many wicked things to mention. We teachers begged Peter Scott for help but we did not receive any.

    I hope that clears things up for you.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #295 on: November 21, 2022, 11:41:38 PM »
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  • …So Kauffman told her story to CM, but then before the story could air, she got cold feet and asked them not to publish it.  That sounds to me like someone who made the whole thing up and then got scared that it would be exposed as a lie.…

    You won't admit your own foolish public, yet largely inconsequential, mistakes, but you are at pains to find any explanation other than "making it up" why someone who went through horrifying abuse with lifelong detrimental impact on her and her child would be loathe to "go public."

    What a sorry pope you are.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #296 on: November 21, 2022, 11:46:56 PM »
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  • Mr. Ladislaus, you are a pitiful man. Yes, Ms. Niles has a bone to pick with me; a grudge she can't let go. We had a production dispute after the interview. We had a pre-interview agreement which Niles changed verbally after the interview. You conclude that makes me a liar; but then I created a lengthy video (with follow-up videos) and posted them on You-Tube. In these videos I explain the key, the locks, the police ... all of it. If you had watched them you might not be so blind. But here you are with more victim blaming and keyboard vomit. I suppose you are going to blame the Stafki family somehow for the priest abusing his own niece for three years. I guess in your mind she should have told her father the first time. You make me sick. I don't know how you are so popular around here. It says a lot about this board.

    Arzuaga has remained a priest in good standing with the SSPX since his ordination in 1988 in La Reja; except for the three years he spent in Mexico working for CMRI. After fathering a child there and having caused the death of Bishop Carmona and another priest as the insane driver of the vehicle they were in, Arzuaga was given the boot from CMRI and came crawling back to SSPX in 1991 who welcomed him with open arms. Peter Scott sent Arzuaga to St. Louis where he did too many wicked things to mention. We teachers begged Peter Scott for help but we did not receive any.

    I hope that clears things up for you.

    May God flood you with healing graces. May God bless you for the courage to accept the wounds that accomplices after the fact heap upon you as you try to awaken and protect others from the horrors inflicted on you and your child.

    May God judge them as He said—with their own measure.

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    « Reply #297 on: November 21, 2022, 11:55:34 PM »
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #298 on: November 21, 2022, 11:59:10 PM »
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  • May God flood you with healing graces. May God bless you for the courage to accept the wounds that accomplices after the fact heap upon you as you try to awaken and protect others from the horrors inflicted on you and your child.

    May God judge them as He said—with their own measure.

    Many grateful thanks. My daughter was adopted in an illegal way. My pregnancy and delivery were unusually difficult and I was ill. To my great sorrow she has chosen a lesbian lifestyle. In your charity, please pray for her.

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    « Reply #299 on: November 22, 2022, 12:02:52 AM »
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  • Many grateful thanks. My daughter was adopted in an illegal way. My pregnancy and delivery were unusually difficult and I was ill. To my great sorrow she has chosen a lesbian lifestyle. In your charity, please pray for her.
    Yes, immediately.… and perpetually.

    :pray: