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Online Ladislaus

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #270 on: July 24, 2021, 04:23:43 PM »
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  • So when are you and other CI members going to call out SSPX for allowing this "predatory priest" to take advantage of her, if that was the case?  

    Do you have some evidence that the SSPX knew this was going on and "allowed" it to happen?  You're constantly making these statements that beg the question.

    Was the SSPX punishment of Fr. Arzuaga too light once they DID find out?  Probably.  But, then again, we don't know the actual facts other than what has been alleged by Erica, and I suspect there may be some exaggeration of other details as well.

    Let's say the SSPX confronted Arzuaga and he responded, "This woman seduced me and I sinned against my vows of chastity, but it wasn't rape, and it only happened one time ... not many times."  What are you supposed to do at that point?  It's his word against hers.  Whatever punishment he received, lacking any real evidence to the contrary, was probably going to be proportionate to whatever he actually admitted to ... since we're left with a "he said"-"she said" scenario.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #271 on: July 25, 2021, 11:54:33 AM »
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    Hollingsworth is the kind of effeminate sap who thinks George Floyd was murdered and his family deserve 23 million dollars and Derek Chauvin  was the most evil cop in America.

    How does TT know what I think about George Floyd or Derek Chauvin? My, my, there is a coterie of real dummies on CI


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #272 on: July 25, 2021, 04:57:24 PM »
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  • Let's say the SSPX confronted Arzuaga and he responded, "This woman seduced me and I sinned against my vows of chastity, but it wasn't rape, and it only happened one time ... not many times."  What are you supposed to do at that point?  It's his word against hers.  Whatever punishment he received, lacking any real evidence to the contrary, was probably going to be proportionate to whatever he actually admitted to ... since we're left with a "he said"-"she said" scenario.
    This is the real problem for Erica, there is no proof for rape, and there never will be, because the only way to prove something like that would be a trip to the emergency room within a few hours of the incident. And even then it isn’t always an open and shut case. 
    It also didn’t help that she stayed and let him continue to ‘abuse’ her. Who doesn’t call someone for help when they’ve been attacked? The trauma from the first time would have been enough to send anyone packing their bags and headed home to try and protect what’s left of their sanity, not stay and leave themselves open for several additional attacks. And then after the second attack, STILL not escape the ongoing terror??? It just doesn’t make sense. 

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #273 on: July 25, 2021, 05:05:47 PM »
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  • My, my, there is a coterie of real dummies on CI
    No one here wants an angry and violent rapist to go free so that he can victimize others. No one here wants to defend an organization (even the SSPX) if they harbor criminals. But it is truly unjust to try a man in the court of public opinion, with an accusation as serious as ‘rape’, and then expect everyone to convict him in their minds just so this woman can feel a false sense of justice and vindication. 

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #274 on: July 25, 2021, 05:10:39 PM »
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  • There are non-violent forms of sɛҳuąƖ abuse that should be punished: doctor-patient, lawyer-client, and—you guessed it—priest=parishioner.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #275 on: July 25, 2021, 05:27:12 PM »
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  • There are non-violent forms of sɛҳuąƖ abuse that should be punished: doctor-patient, lawyer-client, and—you guessed it—priest=parishioner.
    Absolutely. And they should be reported ASAP and dealt with immediately, not years later. 

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #276 on: July 26, 2021, 11:54:23 AM »
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    But it is truly unjust to try a man in the court of public opinion, with an accusation as serious as ‘rape’, and then expect everyone to convict him in their minds just so this woman can feel a false sense of justice and vindication. 

    Who is demanding that Arzuaga be tried on an accusation of 'rape' in the court of public opinion? How about the Society simply adjudicating the case correctly  with the facts on the ground. There were multiple sɛҳuąƖ encounters.  SSPX hierarchy admit that. There was a child produced from these encounters, whether consensual or non-consensual.  SSPX recognizes that fact, as well.  So why was Arzuaga's "discipline" seemingly ineffectual and relatively light?  Why was he allowed back into "ministry" a year(?) later, as a priest in good standing with the Society?  And where is that priest today?  Why do not SSPX leaders close this chapter and simply issue a final statement on the matter?  If this priest has been cut loose by the Society, then inform the public.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #277 on: July 26, 2021, 01:25:56 PM »
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  • Great questions, Hollingsworth.  Why are you asking us?  Why are you on here acting like this site will fix the problems you see?  Why do you care what we think?  Even if 100% of this forum agreed with you and EK...then what?  
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    We can’t change any of this anymore than you can.  What’s the point?


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #278 on: July 28, 2021, 04:48:22 PM »
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    Why are you on here acting like this site will fix the problems you see? 

    I don't think I ever asked this site to solve the Kauffman/Arzuaga affair.  I don't think I ever entertained that notion for a split second.  I would like people, though, to recognize that an illicit relationship existed between an SSPX priest and a young woman teaching at an SSPX school; and that from that relationship (rape?) a child was produced.  Furthermore, I would like people to recognize that the situation was handled inappropriately by the SSPX leadership, that it was covered up initially, but finally admitted under pressure by the SSPX hierarchy.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #279 on: July 28, 2021, 05:32:45 PM »
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  • Accomplished. 

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #280 on: October 08, 2021, 08:12:30 PM »
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    This will be my final words on this thread and probably the board, which I stumbled on after Googling my name. For those of you who have responded charitably and objectively (pro or con), I thank you for being good examples of Catholics for everyone.

    Firstly, I did not come forward with what happened to me in order to get some kind of 'street justice'. My case is in the Hands of a Divine Tribunal and I am very okay with that. I wanted SSPX faithful to know that there is a predator and hirelings within who won't protect you and your children, so DO IT FOR YOURSELVES. Learn from my mistakes.

    Secondly, I or any other victim who comes forward, stand NOTHING to gain and EVERYTHING to lose by doing so, as evidenced by this existing 7-8 page thread, which I had no idea existed until a few weeks ago. After you all became aware of my video testimony from the Remnant did even one of you reach out to me privately with your concerns/objections before venting your spleens and shredding me to pieces HERE? Doubtfully, because in such a case the victim is presumed guilty while the accused is presumed innocent.

    Thirdly, in the videos, which so many refuse to watch but feel expertly capable of commenting on, you will find a detailed time-line, docuмents and logical arguments to support my claims. No one is obligated to watch any or all videos, but if you don't you lose the prerogative to comment on the topic.

    Lastly, and most importantly, I turned to the SSPX authorities first. I went directly to Fellay as confirmed by his First Assistant, Pfluger. The prior and assistant priest (Stanich and Hewko, respectively) had knowledge of what Arzuaga was doing to me and failed to help. If it was a mutual, consensual relationship, then Stanich was obligated to fire me immediately because of the morality clause in my teaching contract. He did not. Ask him why he failed so miserably to do his job. I further pursued keeping Fellay in the loop via written correspondence to which he replied even years after the fact in my favor. I spoke to and met with various District Superiors over the course of TWENTY-THREE years before going public to avoid causing the actions of one bad priest to tarnish the good work of the SSPX.

    There you have it. Take it or leave it. Call me 'Jezabel' and send in the rabid dogs.
    I am so sorry what happened to you.

    Fellay seems to hide everything.
    Pfluger seems to denounce the victim. 
    Hewko seems to put his head in the sand.

    So unfortunate. 

    Remember, God is a tough judge and His punishments more severe than anything we can do on earth.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #281 on: October 08, 2021, 08:16:05 PM »
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  • This is the real problem for Erica, there is no proof for rape, and there never will be, because the only way to prove something like that would be a trip to the emergency room within a few hours of the incident. And even then it isn’t always an open and shut case.
    It also didn’t help that she stayed and let him continue to ‘abuse’ her. Who doesn’t call someone for help when they’ve been attacked? The trauma from the first time would have been enough to send anyone packing their bags and headed home to try and protect what’s left of their sanity, not stay and leave themselves open for several additional attacks. And then after the second attack, STILL not escape the ongoing terror??? It just doesn’t make sense.
    You have no idea what you are talking about.
    Trauma is just that, TRAUMA.  Trauma VICTIMS don't think clearly for some time.
    When you have been raped, you let us know how you handle it.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #282 on: November 21, 2022, 04:05:28 AM »
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  • Here is some news that I could not say sooner because I did not have it visually, factually confirmed: Arzuaga was moved from the French District to Argentina over TWO YEARS ago. That is about the time the Remnant ran my story so Michael Matt could defend himself against the spurious charge that I "called him out". 

    Isn't strange how Arzuaga remained on the French website until 5 mos. ago and does not appear on the Argentinian website? 

    Easter, 2022 I got a call from Pfluger out of the blue. I immediately confronted him with this discrepancy and at first he claimed not to have that information as he is just a lowly, unimportant priest. Then after a few minutes he says, "Oh, here I have the roster. No, Arzuaga is not listed." "But he has been seen by the faithful saying Mass and working in parishes in Argentina. You were supposed to tell me when he moved," I insisted. Then, he proceeded to grill me, asking if I was working with Church Militant. I just laughed.

    As you are all pondering the abominable Stafki abuse and the reporting timeline issued by Fullerton, I hope you keep in mind they are all liars and that I did my best to help you protect your loved-ones.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #283 on: November 21, 2022, 05:58:56 AM »
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  • Isn't strange how Arzuaga remained on the French website until 5 mos. ago and does not appear on the Argentinian website?

    Not really.  SSPX US District's "priest assignments" page is still showing the situation from 2020.  You say that he was moved to Argentina two years ago.  Not sure why they would keep his name on the French District website for another year and a half other than that they simply don't keep some of their websites up to date.  They don't appear to be interesed in keeping the faithful informed, but they will make sure to post the latest up to date information on each fundraiser.

    https://sspx.org/en/priests-assignments-district-united-states

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #284 on: November 21, 2022, 09:14:54 AM »
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  • As you are all pondering the abominable Stafki abuse and the reporting timeline issued by Fullerton, I hope you keep in mind they are all liars and that I did my best to help you protect your loved-ones.

    No, you did not do anything to help protect anyone. You railed against all here who didn't agree with your bullying tactics. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29