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Offline hollingsworth

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #195 on: July 14, 2021, 06:15:11 PM »
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    Ironically, it is YOU who are doing the "shaming" in declaring that I should be ashamed and embarrassed simply because I don't believe you ... and I have no reason to believe you.  You falsely accuse me of "harassing" you.
     Stunning misdirection!  But you do believe, don't you, Lad, that Erica was impregnated by a priest of the SSPX?  You do believe, don't you, that the SSPX hierarchy took steps to discipline Arzuaga?  I mean, there's no doubt in your mind, is there, that Father got the woman pregnant, and that he suffered a very mild penalty at the hand of Bp. Fellay?  I just want to be clear. 
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    « Reply #196 on: July 14, 2021, 07:09:02 PM »
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    You folks are truly just trying to get me to sit down and shut up so that this will go away for the SSPX and the "Resistance" priests who are also implicated in other scandals and being investigated. You will rue the day ...
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #197 on: July 14, 2021, 07:24:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Erica Kauffman on July 14, 2021, 07:09:02 PM
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    You folks are truly just trying to get me to sit down and shut up so that this will go away for the SSPX and the "Resistance" priests who are also implicated in other scandals and being investigated. You will rue the day ...

    Will you then be happy?  
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #198 on: July 14, 2021, 07:27:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Erica Kauffman on July 14, 2021, 07:09:02 PM
    You will rue the day ...

    Is it just me, or does the above sound kind of creepy?
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #199 on: July 14, 2021, 07:46:10 PM »
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    Enabling pederasts and other perverts?
     
    Ordinarily we would not put much credence in the investigations and judgments of the Noahide Pimp, h0Ɩ0h0αxer, and former ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Michael Voris and his “Church Militant,” however we believe we have here instances of “a stopped watch is right twice a day.”
     
    Spotlight—SSPX: ‘Sympathetic to Perverts’
    by Christine Niles, M.St. (Oxon.), J.D.,  ChurchMilitant.com,  April 22, 2020
     
     
     
     
    The SSPX response? Quibbling about US-Austrian extradition treaties, describing first-person testimony of victims as “hearsay,” and vague protestations of innocence: https://sspx.org/en/publications/newsletters/us-district-responds-church-militant-57641
     
    See also: SSPX Defends sɛҳuąƖ Predator
    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/sspx-defends-sɛҳuąƖ-predator-in-its-ranks
     
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    Looking for Answers: SSPX Priest Accused
    by  Michael J. Matt, Editor, The Remnant Newspaper, November 16, 2020
    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/5152-looking-for-answers-sspx-priest-accused

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #200 on: July 14, 2021, 08:15:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Erica Kauffman on July 14, 2021, 07:09:02 PM
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    You folks are truly just trying to get me to sit down and shut up so that this will go away for the SSPX and the "Resistance" priests who are also implicated in other scandals and being investigated. You will rue the day ...

    Same old crap that Voris and company are spewing.  Simply because we insist on having some evidence, well, it must mean that we want to cover up for predators.  Nope, we want the book thrown at them.  Those guilty of crimes should be punished to the full extent of the law.

    Instead of spewing this nonsense, why don't you answer my question.

    Do you believe that every single man accused of predatory behavior and crimes should be considered guilty simply on the world of a single accuser?  Answer the question.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #201 on: July 14, 2021, 08:25:30 PM »
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    • Locate Fr. Arzuaga's child and get a DNA test done.  If it turns out that the child is Fr. Arzuaga's, then both Fr. Arzuaga and the SSPX should pay monetary damages ... to whoever raised the child, since Arzuaga (and the SSPX) are responsible for providing for the child.  You should also receive compensation for giving birth and the extent to which you raised the child, and also additional money for the pain and suffering of being abandoned to deal with the situation alone.

    I have no desire for them to escape responsibility for what happened.  I just hold that there should be a standard of evidence.

    If we started convicting everyone who's every been accused of predatory behavior, I would guess that a huge percentage of them would be unjustly convicted, because false accusations are not uncommon.

    Do you believe that everyone who's accused should be considered guilty?
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #202 on: July 14, 2021, 09:11:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on July 14, 2021, 01:23:06 PM
    but I think we can take to the bank the fact that she had a child, and that that child's father was Fr. Pablo Arzuaga. The SSPX hierarchy believes that to be true.  No doubt about that!
    How do you know that?
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #203 on: July 14, 2021, 10:58:06 PM »
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    How do you know that?
    How does Bp. Fellay know that?  How does Fr. Phluger know that?  How does Michael Matt know that?
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #204 on: July 14, 2021, 11:04:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 14, 2021, 08:15:57 PM
    Do you believe that every single man accused of predatory behavior and crimes should be considered guilty simply on the world of a single accuser?  Answer the question.
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    I did not and will not read your earlier post so I missed this fundamental question.
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    I do not believe that an accusation is proof of guilt. But if you think for a NY minute that I am so stupid that I will post all my legal, docuмented proof here or anywhere on the internet for a bunch of cowards who hide behind phony names, you are a fool.
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    I would like nothing more than to get my case in front of a judge and jury. Arzuaga is listed on the French District website. Go get him. I have challenged him and the SSPX to sue me for liable. DNA could then be obtained, although it isn't necessary because there are legal docuмents where he admits to being the father. Their response to the promise of transparency is silence. You would know all of this and more if you took the time to watch the videos. But no, that is too much to ask. That is YOUR problem; not mine.
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    Oh, and lets not forget that I did not start this "discussion". 
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #205 on: July 14, 2021, 11:10:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on July 14, 2021, 10:58:06 PM
    How does Bp. Fellay know that?  How does Fr. Phluger know that?  How does Michael Matt know that?
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    They have all seen the legal docuмents notarized and given to a judge where he admits to being the father.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #206 on: July 15, 2021, 12:10:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Erica Kauffman on July 14, 2021, 11:10:35 PM
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    How does Bp. Fellay know that?  How does Fr. Phluger know that?  How does Michael Matt know that?
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    They have all seen the legal docuмents notarized and given to a judge where he admits to being the father.
    Why would the judge share docuмents with Mr. Matt?
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #207 on: July 15, 2021, 12:17:10 AM »
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    •   Did you people watch her long tedious video?  If not, sit thru it till the bitter end & then you wouldn't be posting endlessly.  Also, you don't know all the ins & outs of this sad saga.

    I don't remember if it said that a DNA test was taken, but Father admitted that the child was his & the child was adopted.  Some of you are saying that he should pay - I guess that means child support!!  When a child is given up for adoption the adoptive parents take complete care & control of the child.  Whoever heard of paying child support to adoptive parents?  That's not how the real world works.  Those parents & child should be completely out of the picture & allowed to live their lives in peace & quiet & not be reminded of how the child came to be by a monthly check.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #208 on: July 15, 2021, 01:29:31 AM »
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    • I have no comment towards this scandal. We might as well leave it to God. That way we all can have peace. But here we are in 2021 and now it is only right that Fr. Arzuaga and his daughter officially meet. She has a right to know who her father is, does she not? 
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #209 on: July 15, 2021, 07:12:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: Erica Kauffman on July 14, 2021, 11:04:52 PM
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    I did not and will not read your earlier post so I missed this fundamental question.

    I do not believe that an accusation is proof of guilt. But if you think for a NY minute that I am so stupid that I will post all my legal, docuмented proof here or anywhere on the internet for a bunch of cowards who hide behind phony names, you are a fool.

    Your bolded statement brings the thread to an end.  You may have proof, but we haven't seen it.  Consequently, there's no reason that anyone has to believe your allegations.  As of right now, I do not.

    Your attempt to "shame" those of us who don't believe you, callings us cowards, fools, implying that we condone rape, etc. ... that leads me to believe you EVEN less.  If you had come on here and not done that, I would have considered you much more credible.

    BTW, many of us have been open about our true identities, despite using screen names.

    Since the statute of limitations has long passed, what is the purpose of your having compiled these legal docuмents?  If your intention is truly to "warn the public," then there would be no need.  Are you planning a civil suit against the SSPX?  That might explain your "motivation" for coming forward.  One of the arguments on your behalf has been, "what does she have to gain from this?"
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