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Offline Erica Kauffman

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #165 on: July 08, 2021, 06:24:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hana on July 08, 2021, 10:21:17 AM
    Erica, do not misunderstand people. You might cry happy tears if you actually knew who I was. Yes- you would.
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    We are not all bad here.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #166 on: July 08, 2021, 06:28:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 08, 2021, 06:06:06 PM
    If the assault can be proven why didn’t the cops take up the case?  Why didn’t you go to a lawyer?  
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    If the statue of limitations are reached, then how in the world are you going to get justice?  Even if you have proof?
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    None of this makes sense.  
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    ONE. MORE. TIME.  I came forward to warn people. Justice will be in the afterlife.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #167 on: July 08, 2021, 06:37:24 PM »
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    • Even if the assault charge is real, You’re assuming that Fr A has done this multiple times, or that he would.  Youre assuming he’s a perverted psycho.  You’re assuming the sspx isn’t watching him.  ...In other words, you’re assuming the worst.  And for this, you have 0 proof.  You’re projecting the evil you allegedly experienced and assuming it will never end.  This is where your actions have crossed the line into extreme uncharity.  If you have accepted that justice isn’t possible for you, then you need to move on with your life.  
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #168 on: July 08, 2021, 06:44:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 08, 2021, 06:37:24 PM
    Even if the assault charge is real, You’re assuming that Fr A has done this multiple times, or that he would.  Youre assuming he’s a perverted psycho.  You’re assuming the sspx isn’t watching him.  ...In other words, you’re assuming the worse.  And for this, you have 0 proof.  This is where your actions have crossed the line into extreme uncharity.
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    You have no idea the amount of proof I have. Did you read what I wrote about the MO AG, KBI and attorneys? I think your brain is stuck.  Arzuaga has attacked others and there are witnesses to those attacks. Warning people that danger is ahead is the ultimate in charity. Loving one's neighbor for the love of God.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #169 on: July 08, 2021, 07:12:00 PM »
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    • What is it that you want to happen?  He can’t go to jail, because the authorities can’t prosecute.  So what is it that you want your proof to accomplish?
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #170 on: July 08, 2021, 07:19:12 PM »
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    • Yes, but that is really only part of her story.  The rest of the story weaves in leaders of the SSPX, who did virtually nothing to help her.  Those leaders include Bernard Fellay, Fr. Wegner, Fr. Phluger and others.  They heard her story, but did not act effectively to punish or discipline the offender, Fr. Arzuaga.  They gave him a slap on the wrist and let him go.  According to Erica, he is to this day a "priest in good standing" with the Society.  Yes, rape is part of the narrative, but certainly not the whole thing.  SSPX leadership acted then, and continues to act, totally irresponsibly and have gone into a complete cover up posture.  
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #171 on: July 08, 2021, 07:22:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 08, 2021, 07:12:00 PM
    What is it that you want to happen?  He can’t go to jail, because the authorities can’t prosecute.  So what is it that you want your proof to accomplish?
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    I have stated over and over and over and over and over again what I hope to accomplish. If you still can't get it, then I suggest seeing a doctor. I won't be replying to you any more.  :sleep:
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    « Reply #172 on: July 08, 2021, 07:39:48 PM »
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    • You keep saying that justice is in God's hands, but then you keep talking about your story.  That’s a contradiction.  You are causing scandal by your actions.  2 wrongs (rape and scandal) don’t make a right.  You need to forgive and let God handle the rest.  Or, you’ll never have peace. 
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    « Reply #173 on: July 08, 2021, 08:05:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Thorn on June 15, 2021, 11:08:30 PM
    This was not a child, she was a grown woman who had gone to college & was a teacher!  It's unfair to drag the parents into this & somehow blame them - however so slightly.  At what point can the parents let go?  Until she's married?  What if she never marries?  
    That posting is old, sorry, but I missed the question. In my culture, and I believe it was always this way in all the homes of real Catholics throughout the world, the parents were responsible for the care of the daughters till they turned her over to a proper husband. If she remained single all her life, the parents would provide for her till they died. Let me add, that the daughters could not go out on "dates" without  a chaperoning. The chaperones were the parents or  trusted relatives and friends that were considered by the parents to be equals. This is the way my daughters are taken care of and I have many or them.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #174 on: July 08, 2021, 10:18:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on July 08, 2021, 07:19:12 PM
    Yes, but that is really only part of her story.  The rest of the story weaves in leaders of the SSPX, who did virtually nothing to help her.  Those leaders include Bernard Fellay, Fr. Wegner, Fr. Phluger and others.  They heard her story, but did not act effectively to punish or discipline the offender, Fr. Arzuaga.  They gave him a slap on the wrist and let him go.  According to Erica, he is to this day a "priest in good standing" with the Society.  Yes, rape is part of the narrative, but certainly not the whole thing.  SSPX leadership acted then, and continues to act, totally irresponsibly and have gone into a complete cover up posture.  
    Good holy priests are removed while bad priests are protected.  There should have been zero deal with anti Catholic Rome. 
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #175 on: July 08, 2021, 10:26:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on July 08, 2021, 08:05:32 PM
    That posting is old, sorry, but I missed the question. In my culture, and I believe it was always this way in all the homes of real Catholics throughout the world, the parents were responsible for the care of the daughters till they turned her over to a proper husband. If she remained single all her life, the parents would provide for her till they died. Let me add, that the daughters could not go out on "dates" without  a chaperoning. The chaperones were the parents or  trusted relatives and friends that were considered by the parents to be equals. This is the way my daughters are taken care of and I have many or them.

    God Bless
    Yes.  That is Catholic to care for daughters.   It used to be like that in USA but after Vatican II, it changed.  Parents and grand parents became selfish.  They couldn’t wait to kick their daughters out of the house.  
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #176 on: July 08, 2021, 10:33:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 08, 2021, 07:39:48 PM
    You keep saying that justice is in God's hands, but then you keep talking about your story.  That’s a contradiction.  You are causing scandal by your actions.  2 wrongs (rape and scandal) don’t make a right.  You need to forgive and let God handle the rest.  Or, you’ll never have peace.
    PAX VOBIS, you need to shut up!  You cause scandal with your posts defending a priest who abused his position of power and impregnated a young woman. The blame is on him because he is a priest. You are disgusting and causing scandal for defending a “priest” who fathered a child.  What is wrong with you??? You need to go to confession for defending mortal sin!

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #177 on: July 09, 2021, 08:20:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on July 08, 2021, 10:33:56 PM
    PAX VOBIS, you need to shut up!  You cause scandal with your posts defending a priest who abused his position of power and impregnated a young woman. The blame is on him because he is a priest. You are disgusting and causing scandal for defending a “priest” who fathered a child.  What is wrong with you??? You need to go to confession for defending mortal sin!

    Could you explain how Pax Vobis is defending the priest? I'm just not seeing that at all in the post that you are referring to.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #178 on: July 09, 2021, 08:34:39 AM »
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    PAX VOBIS, you need to shut up!  You cause scandal with your posts defending a priest who abused his position of power and impregnated a young woman. The blame is on him because he is a priest. You are disgusting and causing scandal for defending a “priest” who fathered a child.  What is wrong with you??? You need to go to confession for defending mortal sin!

    It takes 2 to tango.  I don't believe the rape story but I do believe 2 adults made a mistake.
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    « Reply #179 on: July 09, 2021, 08:47:00 AM »
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    You cause scandal with your posts defending a priest who abused his position of power and impregnated a young woman.

    You cause scandal by assuming that the priest is wholly to blame, and the woman is innocent.  You are biased and uncharitable towards the priest, who has just as much a right to be believed and protected, as does the woman.
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