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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #150 on: July 08, 2021, 09:28:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Hana on July 08, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
    I will never say exactly that “she IS telling the truth in its entirety.” I would only say “If” she is, because that is all we could say at this point. IF. Of course, some things are quite unclear and they might remain that way.

    All we know is this woman has lost face for good. It’s like a laughingstock for her. The Society has remained silent these several months even with this video out in the open.

    I don't think she's a laughingstock. Most people believe her. But evidently, those who believe her have not convinced the SSPX that they have to make a statement on the subject. And even if the SSPX were to make a statement, would Miss Kauffman's resentment go away?
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #151 on: July 08, 2021, 09:31:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 08, 2021, 09:07:56 AM
    Yes, of course she might be telling the truth. But that's just the problem. We can't know for sure, and we shouldn't be compelled to make a decision on the matter. We don't know the entire story, and we likely never will.
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    Seek transparency from your beloved SSPX.
    Quote from: Meg on July 08, 2021, 09:07:56 AM
    And so why is so much time being spent on this subject? 
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    Beats the heck out of me. This thread was started six months ago-ish and I found it when it was already seven pages long.
    Quote from: Meg on July 08, 2021, 09:07:56 AM
    Why is miss Kauffman making the decision to have so much resentment, not only against Fr. Arzuaga, but against anyone who doesn't believe her? Resentment seems to be her main motivation. She'll have to get past that at some point in her life.
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    I bear no resentment. I do despise anonymous keyboard vomit. This discussion is majority rash judgement and vile assumptions of my character that NONE of you would ever say to my face. You folks are back-biting and that is majorly sinful.
    Quote from: Meg on July 08, 2021, 09:07:56 AM
    You seem to believe that we are obligated to believe her, as if all women who tell a similar story cannot ever be wrong, and that we must always believe them, no matter what.
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    Absolutely NO ONE is obliged to believe me. I came forward to caution people. If you or your child(ren) are harmed ... it's now on YOU. I have done what God obliges me to do.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #152 on: July 08, 2021, 09:52:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: Erica Kauffman on July 08, 2021, 09:31:35 AM
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    Seek transparency from your beloved SSPX..
    Beats the heck out of me. This thread was started six months ago-ish and I found it when it was already seven pages long..
    I bear no resentment. I do despise αnσnymσus keyboard vomit. This discussion is majority rash judgement and vile assumptions of my character that NONE of you would ever say to my face. You folks are back-biting and that is majorly sinful..
    Absolutely NO ONE is obliged to believe me. I came forward to caution people. If you or your child(ren) are harmed ... it's now on YOU. I have done what God obliges me to do.

    There is a good video that you should watch. It's made by an actor who tells his life story. It's interesting because he is a recovering alcoholic. He was sɛҳuąƖly abused not only as a child actor in Hollywood, but also by his biological father. After he contacted a Roman Catholic exorcist priest (Fr. Chad Ripperger) a few years ago, he converted to Catholicism. He realized (I believe with the help of Fr. Ripperger) that what was behind his excess drinking was resentment. Resentment can do bad things to a person, if they hold onto it.

    The video:

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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #153 on: July 08, 2021, 09:56:49 AM »
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    • Well, I am among the SSPX faithful and I do not believe the Society would come forward to give any such statement. They already look ridiculous by not responding. 

    What about other victims- and I’m talking about the actual ones- children and such, that were abused. The parents are still angry to this day because nothing was really done against the priests that hurt their children. Moving those priests to parish to parish establishes further abuse.  These families are either looking for Mass elsewhere or they have left the Church. 

    The resentment you speak of- and that most people believe her- we shall see. Arzuaga should make his own da*n YouTube video. I am willing and I think everyone else are willing to hear both sides. (but, of course, videos is a great place for lying). 

    And there are several, legitimate reasons why some people will not give their real identity. 
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #154 on: July 08, 2021, 10:08:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 08, 2021, 09:52:02 AM
    There is a good video that you should watch. It's made by an actor who tells his life story. It's interesting because he is a recovering alcoholic. He was sɛҳuąƖly abused not only as a child actor in Hollywood, but also by his biological father. After he contacted a Roman Catholic exorcist priest (Fr. Chad Ripperger) a few years ago, he converted to Catholicism. He realized (I believe with the help of Fr. Ripperger) that what was behind his excess drinking was resentment. Resentment can do bad things to a person, if they hold onto it.

    The video:


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    I have been to see Fr. Ripperger for a three day session. He is awesome. Please support his apostolate.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #155 on: July 08, 2021, 10:13:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Hana on July 08, 2021, 09:56:49 AM
    And there are several, legitimate reasons why some people will not give their real identity.
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    Then they lose the prerogative to judge and gossip about someone. Pretty simple.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #156 on: July 08, 2021, 10:21:17 AM »
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    • Erica, do not misunderstand people. You might cry happy tears if you actually knew who I was. Yes- you would. 

    We are not judging you or gossiping, at least I’m not. Not sure about everyone else. Many have sympathized; many were even looking for Arzuaga when you went public, etc. I’m sure it was to help assist you, and not to shame you. There are good Catholics out there who are willing to hear you out and see what they can do to help. We are not all bad here. 
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #157 on: July 08, 2021, 11:31:28 AM »
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    • Let's recap:

    > Erica Kauffman taught at an sspx school.

    > She bore a child while working at that school, or around that time in any case.

    > That child was fathered by an sspx priest, Fr. Pablo Arzuaga.

    > Arzuaga is still a priest in good standing with the Society.

    > SSPX leadership has done little or nothing to effectively address the grievances of Ms. Kauffman.

    >  To date, Fr. Arzuaga is still running about freely doing whatever he does.

    > Fr. Arzuaga has never been questioned or disciplined by sspx hierarchy.  They have taken no action against him.

    > Law enforcement has never apprehended or Fr. Arzuaga or brought him in for questioning.  

    > SSPX, to date, has issued no public statement on the case.

    Have I got it right?  BTW, Pax Vobis, I apologize for my harsh description of you and certain others on this forum.  My anger got the best of me.  Sorry.  I'll try to do better next time.  
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #158 on: July 08, 2021, 11:40:30 AM »
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    Law enforcement has never apprehended or Fr. Arzuaga or brought him in for questioning.  

    > SSPX, to date, has issued no public statement on the case.
    Maybe the above is true because the authorities, both civil and religious, don’t believe a crime occurred?  Maybe the accuser is wrong.  Maybe the priest is innocent?  Why should I believe Ms K when the police didn’t?
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    All we have is the testimony of Ms K...something that happened YEARS and YEARS ago.  
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    Ms K, it’s time to move on.  You tried to get justice but evidentially, this isn’t God's will here on earth.  You’ll have to wait for eternity.  If you don’t move on, you’ll never have peace.  God bless. 
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    « Reply #159 on: July 08, 2021, 01:17:33 PM »
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    BTW, Pax Vobis, I apologize for my harsh description of you and certain others on this forum.  My anger got the best of me.  Sorry.  I'll try to do better next time.
    Hollingsworth, no problem.  I understand your passion at trying to get at the truth.  But neither you nor I have the means or ability to discover it, so in absence of proof, I am forced by catholic charity to distrust the accuser because the only evidence is her word. 
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    She has exhausted all avenues of authority, and they have decided not to act.  The civil authorities are especially unbiased, while she is decidedly very biased.  I cannot trust her - this is a simple decision.  It is a just decision. 
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    I will not believe a story, just because it is repeatedly told. 
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    I will pray for her, but that's all I can do.  Our present life is not perfect and is filled with injustice and sufferings.  Only God, she and the priest know the truth.  If it's not God's will that justice happen in this life, then none of us can change that. 
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #160 on: July 08, 2021, 04:16:24 PM »
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    • PV: 
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      I am forced by catholic charity to distrust the accuser because the only evidence is her word. 

    Fair enough.  But here you mean that you are distrusting her accusations of rape.  Is that not so?  You are not at this point disputing Kauffman's contention that Fr. Azuaga impregnated her, are you?  If so, you would have to immediately part company with Michael Matt, Fr. Nickolas Phluger and Bishop Fellay, all of whom are persuaded that Arzuaga did impregnate her.  And I think we can say with some certainty that then DS Wegner was persuaded as well.
      
    You and others may wish to review some letters that were written in this regard:
    Fr. Phluger’s letter to Erica Kauffman as reprinted in Remnant
    The Remnant Newspaper - Bishop Fellay's Former Assistant Reaches Out to Victim of Alleged Clerical sɛҳuąƖ Abuse

    Opening line of a Matt letter to Fr. Phluger, Feb. 2021
    Thank you for your letter. Are you quite certain that you wish me to make it public that, after impregnating a woman in his own flock, this priest was asked by Bishop Fellay to merely take a year off before returning to ministry?

     

    Fr. Phluger’s letter to Michael Matt 
    The Remnant Newspaper - SSPX Priest Backpedals on Kauffman Case
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    « Reply #161 on: July 08, 2021, 05:22:02 PM »
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    Fair enough.  But here you mean that you are distrusting her accusations of rape.  Is that not so? 
    Of course.  Isn't that why she's making these videos and posting here?  Her story is rape.  It's not been proven.


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    You are not at this point disputing Kauffman's contention that Fr. Azuaga impregnated her, are you?
    The word is, there was a paternity test done.  If true, then this is proof.  Sounds like the sspx does not dispute this either.
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    Conclusion:  Rape can't be proven, in this case.  It's been YEARS since the incident.  Time to move on.  No amount of videos or interviews can provide proof. 
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #162 on: July 08, 2021, 05:57:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 08, 2021, 05:22:02 PM
    Her story is rape.  It's not been proven.
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    Oh, it can be proven. The difficulty is the SSPX played me until the statute of limitations ran out. Again, I only went public to warn people not try my case in the court of public opinion.  :fryingpan:  How dense are you?
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    Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 08, 2021, 05:22:02 PM
    The word is, there was a paternity test done.  
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    Rumor. I got something much better, but I'm not sharing that legal, binding docuмent on the internet because I'm not as dumb as you think I am.
    Rumor mongering is a mortal sin when it is deliberate and of serious matter.
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    « Reply #163 on: July 08, 2021, 06:06:06 PM »
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    • If the assault can be proven why didn’t the cops take up the case?  Why didn’t you go to a lawyer?  
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    If the statue of limitations are reached, then how in the world are you going to get justice?  Even if you have proof?
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    None of this makes sense.  
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #164 on: July 08, 2021, 06:20:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on July 08, 2021, 11:31:28 AM
    Let's recap:

    > Erica Kauffman taught at an sspx school.

    > She bore a child while working at that school, or around that time in any case.

    > That child was fathered by an sspx priest, Fr. Pablo Arzuaga.

    > Arzuaga is still a priest in good standing with the Society.

    > SSPX leadership has done little or nothing to effectively address the grievances of Ms. Kauffman.

    >  To date, Fr. Arzuaga is still running about freely doing whatever he does.

    > Fr. Arzuaga has never been questioned or disciplined by sspx hierarchy.  They have taken no action against him.

    > Law enforcement has never apprehended or Fr. Arzuaga or brought him in for questioning.  

    > SSPX, to date, has issued no public statement on the case.
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    Pretty close. After Arzuaga began raping me, while I was a teacher, I quit and got another minimum wage job. He continued to stalk and rape me until I became pregnant. Arzuaga has been questioned and he says I seduced him. He says he fell in love with me and just could not help himself. SSPX never did a canonically required investigation. Arzuaga was sent to OLG Monastery for his sabbatical year but was booted out by Fr. Cyprian after a few months for scandalizing the community. Fr. Scott reassigned him to the retreat house in Phoenix, AZ to preach retreats to WOMEN!!!  Law enforcement cannot do anything because of the status of limitation. I do have statements from the MO AG, the KS KBI and several attorneys that say my case is solid as a rock. So, this is why there is nothing but cricket chirping coming from Farley, MO and Menzigen, SW.
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