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Offline Yeti

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #135 on: June 28, 2021, 11:57:06 AM »
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  • We are convinced that the SSPX is a Catholic cult, or was turned into one after the passage of years.
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    This explains a lot about what you have been saying in this thread and similar threads for the past several months. Could you explain what you mean by this?

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
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    H: We are convinced that the SSPX is a Catholic cult, or was turned into one after the passage of years.
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     Yeti: This explains a lot about what you have been saying in this thread and similar threads for the past several months. Could you explain what you mean by this?

    Fair question. The word ‘cult’ is not necessarily a pejorative. I think even the Church uses it in the sense of a special devotion, say, to Mary, or to the Holy Family, or to the Wounds of Christ.

    I use it in a less positive way with reference to the SSPX. I think the SSPX is a ‘cult’ in the sense of assuming to itself a specially ordained role in the Church, a role that it does not deserve now, nor, probably, did it ever. The Society has no special or God-given, God-appointed authority or mandate to re-establish the Old Mass, and to train new priests in the exercise of the traditional Catholic Sacraments.

    Many of its followers still believe that the Society is really the Church’s only authentic gatekeeper, a Divinely ordained apostolate to which the faithful must repair, if they are to preserve their own Catholic identity. The SSPX operates, truth be told, as if it were the true Church in exile, assuming that responsibility until the Holy See in Rome is fully restored. We don’t believe that.

    What is more, the terrible sex scandals plaguing the Society is proof positive to us that the SSPX and its priests and hierarchy are not what they think they are. The Society has been outed, painful as that outing has proven to be.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #137 on: June 28, 2021, 08:29:31 PM »
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    I use it in a less positive way with reference to the SSPX. I think the SSPX is a ‘cult’ in the sense of assuming to itself a specially ordained role in the Church, a role that it does not deserve now, nor, probably, did it ever.
    The sspx started small and grew.  But they were, and are, a part of a larger grass-roots movement called "Tradition".
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    The Society has no special or God-given, God-appointed authority or mandate to re-establish the Old Mass, and to train new priests in the exercise of the traditional Catholic Sacraments.
    +ABL did have a God-given, God-appointed reason to do what he did (i.e. Quo Primum).  All of Tradition has such a mandate, and also are COMMANDED, because Quo Primum is the law of the Church, which does not allow, under grave sin, any alterations to the Latin Rite.
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    Many of its followers still believe that the Society is really the Church’s only authentic gatekeeper, a Divinely ordained apostolate to which the faithful must repair, if they are to preserve their own Catholic identity. The SSPX operates, truth be told, as if it were the true Church in exile, assuming that responsibility until the Holy See in Rome is fully restored. We don’t believe that.
    The sspx is part of the church in exile, with the whole of Tradition, being the larger part.
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    What is more, the terrible sex scandals plaguing the Society is proof positive to us that the SSPX and its priests and hierarchy are not what they think they are. The Society has been outed, painful as that outing has proven to be.

    :facepalm:  So using the same logic, do the FAR WORSE, far more systematic, far more evil sex scandals of new-rome prove that the Catholic Faith is false?  
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #138 on: July 07, 2021, 03:12:51 AM »
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  • [font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]If it was an affair and not rape, then why[/font] [font=.SFUIText]has she gone public? Would she go to the police with lies? Why did she demand and now have a current photograph of the priest? It is likely she has given the photograph to the police- so was it actual rape, then? She obtained such a photo through an organization that exposes clerical abuse. Interesting? (Sounds like there are sɛҳuąƖ allegations against Arzuaga in France, and that tells me Fellay has not checked up on him in quite a while). He was being a bad man and a bad shepherd, but is he STILL? A slap on the wrist, I hear? He should have been pulled by the ear across the sanctuary. This priest clearly has sɛҳuąƖ problems. Has he been touching Our Lord while in the state of mortal sin? Poor Jesus. Now that’s a slap on the wrist. Why[/font] [font=.SFUIText]has Erica kept copies of correspondence between the Bishop and superiors over the years? If it was an affair, then why has she given away her identity, losing face in front of her fellow Catholics worldwide? Would she lie to all of us? She has embarrassed herself by doing this. If any of us were to see her in a store, we would probably laugh- that is the humiliation she has risked for herself. Why look upon her as if she were damaged goods? This woman has clearly been hurt; when she talks, her voice shakes. She is scared, has she been truly loved? Christ loved Magdalene- He did not sit with the saints, He sat with the sinners.  And so if we were all around a table, I would sit next to Erica. I would take this woman out for some shopping and the meal would be on me, too. A little consideration first. Why is she trying to find out Father’s whereabouts? Why has she been offering Father his day in court- what is that all about? If it was an affair, why has she given out names to the public who are considered guilty in her case? Do you know how serious it is to give out names, when slander and such could take place? Well, she has given out names anyhow. Fr. Wegner, have you blushed yet? What about you, Fr. Stanich? And that goes for others she had named in her video. So, was it actual rape? I do not know, and neither do you. We are not to make assumptions because none of us were in that apartment to know the truth. Bishop Fellay was not in that apartment, either- and so I say he had no right to “conclude on anything.” He should have never trusted Fr. Arzuaga again. Period. It is quite obvious he believed the priest’s side of the story (they both were in their 30’s at the time and yes, they would be all buddy-buddy in that case). I do not believe the priest told the truth when questioned by Fellay. Also, the Society is all about the priesthood- and so, it would have been all about Arzuaga. The Society is NOT everything, and THAT goes for all traditional groups. Enough with the pride and whose better and whose right. Enough. Giving her apartment key to the priest but the priest taking the key are two different things. Fellay should have considered that. It was part of justice’s sake that Fellay should have had Arzuaga and Kauffman come into the same room for investigation. I can repeat that again, if you so wish. “Believe the priest. He’s such a saint. It is the woman’s fault,” right? Not all women seduce by the way. Question is was the priest even worth seducing? It sounds as if he was seducing himself; you shouldn’t have to allure a bad priest when he is bad already. Do you see what I mean? Bad priests come after you anyway. This implies as to why she remained within his reach? Yes, she was there to teach, but after him hitting the other teacher, did that other girl remain to teach as well? Arzuaga is claiming that “Erica had seduced him,” but she has claimed “that no such seduction on her part took place.” One of them is lying. It is clear Father did not want to sign those papers for the adoption- feelings of guilt and feelings of trace there,no? What I do believe is this: That Fr. Arzuaga was a true ass back in the 90’s. Was he breaking the law before entering the seminary? Did he even come from a Catholic family?  And what about his good name? By going public, she has ruined his reputation. This questions the fact that such a risk taken might tell us it was a case of rape? Maybe. My only question is where was the roommate during the rapes? How did Arzuaga know the roommate was absent? Was he crazy enough to stalk the apartment every now and then? (Yes, there are psychotic people in the world that intimidate their victims like that. Just watch the news). For this case, everything will be revealed on Judgement Day, and so I will see you all on Judgement Day.[/font][/font][/color]

    [font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]         If you were raped by a priest- actually raped- like fighting Father all night long, would anyone believe you? No of course not- because “priests are men of God and they would never do such a thing.” Imagine having a priest touch you and you did not want it? Imagine you were held hostage by a priest, and even psychologically and not just physically. Imagine the buried fear you would have to live with because of that touch). Who do you think would win, Arzuaga or Kauffman? I think you know the answer to that. She said she could not get him off. She had admitted that in her video. Men are physically stronger. God forbid! Imagine the trauma by the one who taught you catechism? The one that gives Communion to you? The one who represents Christ? Take no money, Erica. But why have Arzuaga say Mass on all SSPX altars, but keep Kauffman out of their pews? I say this because there is no way she is permitted to attend those Masses. Sounds like “being kicked out of the ѕуηαgσgυєs,” no? I do not believe that Erica would lie to her own daughter what had happened multiple times in the apartment. This woman had kept the Faith as well; she had not fallen away forever. She could have chosen a a sinful life, but she lives alone and finds Mass the best she can. [/font][/font][/color]
    [font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]      I, too, have known manipulative individuals that will press you and the victim becomes imbalanced and afraid. I get the pressure, and others who have gone through the same will understand that pressure. Must be nice to be a priest, eh Father? sɛҳuąƖ abuse hides in Religious life and the priesthood. Maybe Miss Kauffman was manipulated by Arzuaga? We hear he had “been living a bad life,” and needed Fr. Peter Scott’s assistance. Yes two or three witnesses are needed in order to accuse a priest. How nice is that for any priest? But what priest is going to commit sɛҳuąƖ sin in front of a witness? He would keep it as secret as possible, yes? Being alone with a priest in an apartment gives him coverage and the victim ridicule. It is true- we would rather believe the priest but that is warped. I apologize, but maybe facts are not good enough, if some facts are missing or if the facts are tampered with. I apologize, but maybe there were no witnesses at the time but God. Now that’s a fact. And what about Fellay “saying he had never heard of the case?” That is just pathetic when he had to sit down and hear both stories. I think Fellay disregarded the child at the time (since then not much was done for her, even now nothing is done for her); but let me just add: She is legal now, Fellay. If Arzuaga’s daughter has a good amount of pity, she will not take you to court for this. [/font][/font][/color]
    [font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]        He knows about this public video and the fact that it has reached his French faithful. And I know plenty of French faithful; I do not think he would be willing to tell the truth on what really happened in that apartment. Must be hard to walk out of the priory. He has been ACCUSED of rape,  but has not come forward to defend himself. He has remained silent like the Society has. He even knows that his daughter knows, but he is not man enough to face her. What if he comes to the States, finds Erica, and kills her? What will be all of your opinion then? When she went public last year, I was getting ready to travel to get a current photograph since I already knew the location of Fr. Arzuaga.  And I was going to go to confession to him while I was there. But you heard her, “He did rape me. I know it. He knows it. God knows it.” You bring God into this as a Witness, then maybe this case is unsolved. At the end of the day, we are all dead because life is short and death is a thief in the night. Do you preach that, Father? And since life is short and we will stand before God to make account, might as well get involved and do the RIGHT THING.  If it was an affair, wouldn’t she want to hide her sin from the public, yes? She has lost face by doing this, remember that. Authority and superiority always takes over. Remember that too. As the faithful, we do not know what happens behind the red curtain. Everything is skillfully hidden from us. Do not always trust the clergy; you do not know what they have done and what they do once they step down from the altar. I know someone who was raped as a little child and the priest got away with it. And that child tried to commit ѕυιcιdє many times. I would also like to add that although women are the weaker sex and men can overtake them, does not mean to take advantage of women because of the gentle qualities God had implanted in them; I say this on the rumors in Michael Matt’s position when a letter was written without Erica’s knowledge- but we can only accuse Mr. Matt if it true that such advantage was taken. Was there some dishonesty done against Miss Kauffman? [/font][/font][/color]
    [font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]    In regards to Arzuaga’s daughter, he should have paid for her very life and for her very soul. He is responsible for her soul before God. He easily got out from contributing towards her existence. Erica had courage to carry his child; if it was an affair, wouldn’t she have covered up her guilt by having an abortion? The last time I checked, Arzuaga had left her to deal with the pregnancy herself. So was it rape after all? Maybe. The priest was never invited to “be part of his daughter’s life,” which means there was some kind of tension between the priest and Erica for that to be arranged. Fellay should have made sure that Arzuaga paid, but of course not. The day will come when he will have to stand before his own daughter. His time will come. He was a coward and he loved only himself. No wonder why he walked out when she told him about the pregnancy; he was too focused on pleasure and not on that final end of the procreative act. It is incredible that God did not and has not struck this priest dead. I have already made up my mind to forgive this priest whether he wants any of us to forgive him or not. He absolves us, no? (his French faithful). True, he has been living too comfortably. Yes. We are part of every scandal in the Church, for we are members of the true Church- just as an entire country must suffer starvation. It might have been one person who sinned, but because of that sin, the entire congregation must suffer. We were part of Father’s sin from the beginning and we choose to make sacrifices for him than to silence ourselves for “reputation” or “money” motives. [/font][/font][/color]
    [font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]     You are pathetic, Father Arzuaga- and you are a pig. We love you too much. Someone has to tell you because how else are you going to rise above and become a saint? If he is truly sorry and cannot live with himself, let us hear him out and forgive. But if he raped and continued on to commit such abuse through the years, then he needs to go to prison. We are all sinners and sometimes we have to face the people we have hurt. If we expect Christ to forgive us, then we MUST forgive each other. Was it an affair? She either committed sin with Father or she didn’t. There’s no in between. And if we can’t know in this life, then we will know in the next. Miss Kauffman, if what you say is TRUE in its entirety, then fight for your daughter’s soul.”[/font][/font][/color]

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #139 on: July 07, 2021, 11:43:47 AM »
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    I presume the SSPX leadership may wish to tell their side of the story. Perhaps they already have done so, I don’t know. Either way, I offer these columns to them, should they wish to publicly respond to Miss Kauffman's now-public complaint posted on YouTube. 
    I think this is a quote from Michael Matt. Matthew reposted it in November of 2020.
    Well, has SSPX leadership told their side of the story?  Does Fr. Arzuaga still belong to the Society?  Why has he not been disciplined by sspx, if indeed, he is in truth the father of this child?  Matt has given sspx hierarchy an opportunity to explain themselves?  Have they bothered to do so? Have they explained any of the particulars?  Have they notified the public that Arzuaa is no longer a member of SSPX?  Have they brought any clarity at all to the situation? Nothing I've seen so far indicates that they have. And while they're at it, why don't these sspx leaders tell us about at least a dozen other wayward priests in their midst?  


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #140 on: July 07, 2021, 02:06:02 PM »
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    Sorry, but this wall of text is unreadable, not only because of its formatting but because it's just a stream of consciousness.

    As for why she came out in the open if there wasn't rape, there could be numerous reasons.  She could be seeking attention.  She could be setting up a civil suit.  She could actually be convinced it was rape after mulling it over in her mind, conflating her current attitudes with past memories, etc.  There are many known cases where people psychologically change past memories; that's one of the reasons why there are these statutes of limitation ... because people's memories become unreliable.  There's also the well known phenomenon of imposing your internal mindset on past memories.  So, for instance, you were upset or uncomfortable by the entire situation.  But those thoughts never manifested themselves externally AT the time, so there was no indicator that this was involuntary and forced.  There are myriad explanations for why she would come out with this short of the allegations being actually true.

    I'm afraid that this doesn't amount to evidence for her allegations.

    There are lots of unproven and, frankly, unprovable allegations in that ramble, all of which assume that Arzuaga was guilty of rape.

    When Arzuaga was able to do this over and over again, without anything concrete having been done to stop him, that strongly indicates that there was no outward manifestation of her unwillingness to participate.  She could have physically resisted him (he's not a very big guy and probably not hard to fight off if drunk, as was alleged).  She could have gotten her locks changed.  She could have gone to his SSPX superior immediately and made the accusation of rape.  She could have gone to the police and obtained the necessary evidence to have him charged.

    I grant that it's possible that she was so emotionally disturbed by the whole situation that she didn't really know how to react, and this paralyzed her from acting.  But it does not appear that her unwillingness was actually manifested in an external way, and that would preclude rape, per se.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #141 on: July 07, 2021, 04:49:15 PM »
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  • To Ladislaus:

    Possibly my formatting is not as good since I’m likely not in the same country as you and formatting rarely turns out well here. I do apologize if it is not readable. Hopefully this text turns out better. 

    I will make one last point, for I do not wish to quarrel with fellow Catholics. I will only be charitable in the regard of this upsetting case. If you had read what I had written, you’ll see I did NOT state that I “believed everything Kauffman has claimed.” You will also see that I did NOT state “that it was absolute rape and nothing but rape.” But what I see is people want to hear and hear nothing else but that “it was an affair and nothing more.” In your response to my text, of course, we have all considered the locks on her door- that everything could be based on her feelings and mixed memories- the delay in going to the police at the time of the “rapes,” that now she could be seeking attention etc. It could be possible; she could be lying, the Society could be lying. But once again, who really has knowledge of that truth or any truth? The very reality that her disturbing video was on the internet for the whole world to see, means it could not be ignored since of its serious nature. Michael Matt is in possession of docuмents that show paternity. She couldn’t fool Michael even if she tried. 

    We all have spoken our own opinions. I do not believe it was rape but neither do I believe it was an affair. We do not know. We all comment as we go. 

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #142 on: July 07, 2021, 08:36:32 PM »
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    Well, I thought I was done here but this discussion gets more and more insane. I have come forward and am taking all kinds of hate for ONE reason only: if my story of hell can prevent one child or one vulnerable adult from being abused by SSPX cult members, lay and cleric, then it is worth the keyboard vomit. Not one of you would say any of this to my face. You hide behind anonymity.

    Here is something I have posted on Facebook:

    I am posting this for two reasons. First, to show my support for any victim of violence, physical and/or psychological, anywhere and of any age. Second, to warn my reader of a violent sex offender who has managed to escape the law through the actions and protection of his friends and superiors. His photo (most current available to me) is below. His name is Pablo Juan Arzuaga, a priest in good standing with the Society of St. Pius X aka SSPX, FSSPX.
    Unfortunately, to do that I have to tell you a story. Arzuaga is my rapist and the biological father of my only child; a child I love more than any human being and would do anything for, except sin against the Good God who gave her to me; a miracle child (I was/am infertile). As there were no witnesses to the violence I endured (who ever actually witnesses rape, anyway?), bringing him to justice via the “justice system” is an impossibility. So, I turned to his superiors, the highest within the SSPX: Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay; his First Assistant, Niklaus Pfluger; USA District superiors, Peter Scott and Jürgen Wegner and the current Superior General, Davide Pagliarani.
    Arzuaga presents with enough characteristics of the Cluster B Personality Disorder to safely, in my opinion, consider him a Sociopath. When Arzuaga began his grooming of me part of the intimidation was making it known that he was in possession of a 9mm semi-automatic pistol and various gruesome hunting knives. What, in the Name of all that is holy, does a priest need with an assault weapon? Then the stalking began and over the course of several months of mind games (‘do as you are told, or else…’), he finally found his opportunity to sɛҳuąƖly assault me. At that time, I thought he was the only bad priest in the SSPX and I was the only victim.
    I know he travels freely into the USA, particularly to Oregon. He still uses his US Green Card, but since his apostolate is in France AND he is an Argentinian National, why does he keep this Federally Authorized Docuмent allowing him to live and work in the USA?
    So, let me tell you what not to do when you are near him:

    • Assume his smile and empathy are genuine.
    • Assume his “sage” advice comes from a place of holiness.
    • Assume his sadness comes from a place of remorse.
    • Never, ever get into a vehicle when he is behind the wheel. He has already killed a Bishop and a priest in Mexico by reckless driving. His driving habits have not changed.
    • Give him alcohol. While drunk and suicidal he attempted to take the life of a priest in St. Louis, MO by brute force. The name of this priest is Fr. John Young. Since Fr. Young speaks of this incident openly and I was a witness, I am not violating privacy.
    • Trust him alone with your child(ren) as he is likely to give them alcohol and cigarettes (grooming tools). He told me he does this.
    • Assume that he is legally permitted to carry or use a fire-arm.

    Consider yourselves cautioned. Now that CÖVÌD restrictions are easing up, Arzuaga will resume travels to see his buddy, convicted sex offender, James Richard “Burt” Simmerman.
    I am not opening a debate to defend my actions or inactions before, during or after being raped by Arzuaga. This is not about me. This is about you. This is about your child(ren). My YouTube testimonies are still available for private viewing. Simply send me a message and I will send you a link.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #143 on: July 07, 2021, 09:29:28 PM »
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  • Since when is a 9mm an "assault weapon"?  Your post is filled with trigger words and liberal-media propaganda-speech.  Hard to take seriously.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #144 on: July 07, 2021, 10:06:18 PM »
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  • Since when is a 9mm an "assault weapon"?  Your post is filled with trigger words and liberal-media propaganda-speech.  Hard to take seriously.
    Because the law says so. The police say so. You = 🤮

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #145 on: July 07, 2021, 10:35:33 PM »
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  • Erica,
    I really feel for you, especially as you have to deal with damn fools on CI like Pax Vobis.  You see, he doesn't get it, and never will.  He is more caught up in the correct identity of a particular firearm than he is with the truly important matter of you and the crime(s) perpetrated upon you by Fr. Arzuaga.


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    His name is Pablo Juan Arzuaga, a priest in good standing with the Society of St. Pius X aka SSPX, FSSPX.  

    Listen, PV, you moron, and you other morons.  Erika mentions here a priest "in good standing with" the Society.  This is not past tense, PV.  This is present tense.  Unless Erika is wrong, or worse, lying, Arzuaga is still with sspx and operating under their auspices.  Does that concern you, sirrah, or should we first determine if a 9mm pistol is really an assault weapon?
    Erika, just for for your possible amusement, watch the response to my comment.  They'll drown me in 'thumbs down' and I will chuckle delightedly as I always have. 


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #146 on: July 07, 2021, 11:17:03 PM »
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  • Am I being misunderstood here? I will state this again: She might just be telling the truth here. Yes- I said it. What if you were ACTUALLY abused by a priest, but not a single person believed you, because they “valued that priest?”  Yes- I said that, too. That’s possibly why they will not believe her story because they “love Fr. A.” She wouldn’t say there were deaths done by Arzuaga’s hand, if there were not death records as evidence of the Bishop and priest. CMRI was it? The death records could be looked at.

    You never know but he might be watching all activity on this forum. By the way, Arzuaga, how’s the vegetable garden coming? Send me some squash, won’t you.



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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #147 on: July 07, 2021, 11:45:32 PM »
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  • Listen, PV, you moron, and you other morons.  Erika mentions here a priest "in good standing with" the Society.  This is not past tense, PV.  This is present tense.  Unless Erika is wrong, or worse, lying, Arzuaga is still with sspx and operating under their auspices.  Does that concern you, sirrah, or should we first determine if a 9mm pistol is really an assault weapon?
    Erika, just for for your possible amusement, watch the response to my comment.  They'll drown me in 'thumbs down' and I will chuckle delightedly as I always have.
    https://laportelatine.org/lieux/prieure-saint-jean-mantes-la-jolie

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #148 on: July 08, 2021, 09:07:56 AM »
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  • Am I being misunderstood here? I will state this again: She might just be telling the truth here. Yes- I said it. What if you were ACTUALLY abused by a priest, but not a single person believed you, because they “valued that priest?”  Yes- I said that, too. That’s possibly why they will not believe her story because they “love Fr. A.” She wouldn’t say there were deaths done by Arzuaga’s hand, if there were not death records as evidence of the Bishop and priest. CMRI was it? The death records could be looked at.

    You never know but he might be watching all activity on this forum. By the way, Arzuaga, how’s the vegetable garden coming? Send me some squash, won’t you.

    Yes, of course she might be telling the truth. But that's just the problem. We can't know for sure, and we shouldn't be compelled to make a decision on the matter. We don't know the entire story, and we likely never will. And so why is so much time being spent on this subject? Why is miss Kauffman making the decision to have so much resentment, not only against Fr. Arzuaga, but against anyone who doesn't believe her? Resentment seems to be her main motivation. She'll have to get past that at some point in her life.

    You seem to believe that we are obligated to believe her, as if all women who tell a similar story cannot ever be wrong, and that we must always believe them, no matter what. That's like saying that women can never err, or make mistakes. And that when a priest (or any man) is accused, then he is always guilty, no matter what. This particular view, as shared by you and miss Kauffman, doesn't take human nature into consideration. Women CAN be wrong, just as men can. That is a fact.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #149 on: July 08, 2021, 09:20:37 AM »
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  • I will never say exactly that “she IS telling the truth in its entirety.” I would only say “If” she is, because that is all we could say at this point. IF. Of course, some things are quite unclear and they might remain that way. 

    All we know is this woman has lost face for good. It’s like a laughingstock for her. The Society has remained silent these several months even with this video out in the open.