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Offline andy

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2021, 11:31:11 AM »
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  • Offline Erica Kauffman

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #106 on: June 15, 2021, 12:15:02 PM »
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  • You still have to prove it.
    How?


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #107 on: June 15, 2021, 01:19:50 PM »
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  • How?
    You could e.g. change your youtube Channel-Info saying 'I am she'.
    That meaning of the sacred dogmas is ever to be maintained which has once been declared by holy mother church. (Dei Filius)

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #108 on: June 15, 2021, 04:43:56 PM »
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  • So that this thing not go on & on needlessly, let's recap a couple of things:

    You said that the priest was drunk at some gathering & wanted a ride home but no one would drive him so you did - alone - !! (this after he had supposedly abused you).  So why didn't you or someone think to call a cab?  I would NEVER have driven him home - I would have let him stumble, walk or take a cab.  What you did makes no sense.

    Then you said you didn't have money to change the lock on your apartment!!!  How much does a lock cost?!!  I would have begged or borrowed the money, as any normal person would.  You had money to move to another state though.   To compound the nonsense of this whole nonsense, you put the key under the mat!!!!!    What's the first place that anyone would look for the key to the door?

    Bottom line --- I don't believe you & this thread needs to be closed.  Don't allow this to be her bully pulpit.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #109 on: June 15, 2021, 06:11:28 PM »
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  • So that this thing not go on & on needlessly, let's recap a couple of things:

    You said that the priest was drunk at some gathering & wanted a ride home but no one would drive him so you did - alone - !! (this after he had supposedly abused you).  So why didn't you or someone think to call a cab?  I would NEVER have driven him home - I would have let him stumble, walk or take a cab.  What you did makes no sense.

    Then you said you didn't have money to change the lock on your apartment!!!  How much does a lock cost?!!  I would have begged or borrowed the money, as any normal person would.  You had money to move to another state though.   To compound the nonsense of this whole nonsense, you put the key under the mat!!!!!    What's the first place that anyone would look for the key to the door?

    Bottom line --- I don't believe you & this thread needs to be closed.  Don't allow this to be her bully pulpit.
     This is a classic example of the defense mechanism of vicitim blaming"
    “victim blaming is all about placing unreasonable expectations on people (statistically mostly women) to act in a certain way to keep themselves safe, while expectations are rarely placed on the perpetrator (statistically mostly men) to put the feelings of others above their own.”
    Why do we blame the victim?
    “It’s hard for people with no experience of rape to understand it,” says Lizzy Dening, founder of Survivor Stories – a collection of stories about sɛҳuąƖ assault told in the survivors’ own words. But the best way we can try to help is to listen empathetically when survivors choose to share their story. Victim blaming harms us all,” says Dening, adding “it’s an insidious problem that runs throughout our society.”

    So, why is society so quick to blame the victim in cases of sɛҳuąƖ abuse? Some possible reasons brought forward by researchers include:
    • The ‘just world’ hypothesis:
    According to researcher Sherry Hamby, “the biggest factor that promotes victim blaming is the ‘just world’ hypothesis.”
    It’s the idea that good things happen to good people – which also implies that, if something bad happened to you, you must’ve done something bad to deserve it. “There’s a really strong need to believe that we all deserve the outcomes and consequences in our lives,” she says, adding that the idea that we’re all in control of our own destinies plays into this myth.

    • A defence mechanism:
    Professor Barbara Gilin notes that people tend to default to victim-blaming thoughts and behaviors as a defense mechanism in the face of bad news. Because, if we can pretend that the victim was targeted because they did something wrong, we can tell ourselves that as long as we do everything right, we can prevent ourselves from becoming a target too.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #110 on: June 15, 2021, 06:42:56 PM »
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  • Don't allow this to be her bully pulpit.

     :facepalm:

    After the (un)charitable treatment she got here today, doubtful she'll be back. 

    BTW, who exactly was she bullying???  :confused:


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #111 on: June 15, 2021, 06:50:09 PM »
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  • Victim blaming?!  Who's blaming the "victim"?    She isn't a victim.  If she was abused, why did she offer to drive the drunk abuser home and on top of it do it alone?  Why didn't she change the lock?  Why did she put the key to her apt under the mat?  If she is that irresponsible she needs a caretaker.  

    This isn't a thing of blaming women but not men.  Women have to be sensible  - & don't give me the baloney that only men are sensible and women are driven by emotions & therefore they always do stupid things that make no sense.  Maybe some women do nonsensical things but some men do too. 

    If she were a victim, I'd be the first to help her.  But I don't like portraying oneself as a victim when they are not.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #112 on: June 15, 2021, 06:55:21 PM »
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  • Bonaventure - You should have looked up 'bully pulpit' in the dictionary before you posted.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #113 on: June 15, 2021, 07:01:52 PM »
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  • Bonaventure - You should have looked up 'bully pulpit' in the dictionary before you posted.

    :facepalm: :facepalm:  Dry humor never goes over well here.

    Regardless, maybe you should have checked the dictionary before you posted.

    From the Oxford dictionary...

    "Bully Pulpit": a public office or position of authority that provides its occupant with an outstanding opportunity to speak out on any issue.

    She holds neither public office nor any position of authority.

    She just came here (assuming its her--could've been an impostor--but that's doubtful) to post because her article popped up in a search.

    And she was adroitly shown the door.

    How Trad.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #114 on: June 15, 2021, 07:54:26 PM »
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  • And she was adroitly shown the door.

    How Trad.
    What would be the best case scenario?

    Offline Meg

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #115 on: June 15, 2021, 08:00:55 PM »
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  • I, for one, don't "blame the victim." It's very possible that her accusations are true, but do we automatically assume that everything that a supposed victim says is true? Isn't there a middle road between ASSUMING that a supposed victim is telling the absolute truth, and ASSUMING that a supposed victim is completely fabricating a story?

    We don't have enough information to make an absolute judgment on the situation, and we shouldn't be required to. What we can take from it is that traditional priests can fail morally, and it should be kept in mind. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #116 on: June 15, 2021, 08:16:01 PM »
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  • Erica, there is no way any of us on this website, nor any person on YT can know all the facts, without talking to you and the accused.  That’s what the justice system is for.
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    If your accusations are true, then the truth might prevail, through legal avenues.  If that isn’t possible, then the answer might be that you will not have justice on this earth, but only in the next.   History is full of unfairness and injustice, especially what happened to Christ.  
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    I suggest that you stop posting your story and re-living your trauma, EXCEPT if taking to the police or lawyers.  Apart from that, for your mental health, you need to move on with your life.  The past is the past...you need to forgive and pray to forget. This is the only way you’ll have peace.  God bless.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #117 on: June 15, 2021, 10:13:06 PM »
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  • Ok, so assuming that's true, here are the facts:
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    20+ years ago, a woman and priest had a child.  Child given up for adoption.  Woman and priest signed a docuмent for adoption.

    If it is true then the priest should no longer be a priest.  
    Where is this “priest” now???
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #118 on: June 15, 2021, 10:19:19 PM »
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  • Erica, I don’t know much about this. However,  I am so sorry for what you went through.  Priests are supposed to be celibate.  
    He was a priest who abused his position. I will pray for your healing.   
    May God Bless you always.  

    I will try to watch the videos. 





    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #119 on: June 15, 2021, 10:51:57 PM »
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  • To me it is of little importance whether this happened as she says or otherwise, what I see in this is that the average man or parent who reads this, does not see anything wrong with sending their daughters away to live by themselves and does not see that the same thing that happened to this girl whether she did it willingly or not, will happen or is happening right now to their daughters or sisters. Whether their daughters are away at college or working in another state, they will be pursued by strangers. What did parents expect? Personally, I think that parents, and specially the fathers, that send their daughters away to live by themselves are sleeping on the job, idiots, shirking their duty, do not care till it is too late, selfish, useless......  (take your pick)
    Excellent post. Parents need to protect their children. 
    May God bless you and keep you