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Offline donkath

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2020, 09:11:20 PM »
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  • Even if my sister had a girl friend or business associate that was in such danger she would call me and I'd take care of it. These situations have more to them than is said. Likely the girl was a total loner with no friends whatsoever.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #16 on: November 20, 2020, 06:11:45 AM »
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  • I didn't watch the video in which Miss Kauffman gives her testimony, so there are a few things that aren't clear. There seem to be a few glaring omissions in Michael Matt's analysis, so I have a few questions. Michael Matt goes on and on about this and that in his article, but he doesn't address some basic questions:

    Did Miss Kauffman tell anyone in the SSPX about her situation and accusations back when it happened, or since, until now? I don't see any mention of this by Michael Matt.

    When did the SSPX first learn of Miss Kauffman's accusations? Has there been any investigation by the SSPX of said priest? Have they even heard of Miss Kauffman's accusations? I would hope so, but that isn't made clear. 

    What sort of justice is Miss Kauffman hoping to achieve, exactly? The article says that......"I will allow Miss Kauffman to bring her case to the attention of our readers for the purpose of achieving justice for her as well as preventing further scandal." 

    I'm not on any one side in this - I just think that since Michael Matt is posting this situation in a public manner, he should provide more basic info, which doesn't require watching a video. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #17 on: November 20, 2020, 07:12:45 AM »
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  • I didn't watch the video in which Miss Kauffman gives her testimony, so there are a few things that aren't clear. There seem to be a few glaring omissions in Michael Matt's analysis, so I have a few questions. Michael Matt goes on and on about this and that in his article, but he doesn't address some basic questions:

    Did Miss Kauffman tell anyone in the SSPX about her situation and accusations back when it happened, or since, until now? I don't see any mention of this by Michael Matt.

    When did the SSPX first learn of Miss Kauffman's accusations? Has there been any investigation by the SSPX of said priest? Have they even heard of Miss Kauffman's accusations? I would hope so, but that isn't made clear.

    What sort of justice is Miss Kauffman hoping to achieve, exactly? The article says that......"I will allow Miss Kauffman to bring her case to the attention of our readers for the purpose of achieving justice for her as well as preventing further scandal."

    I'm not on any one side in this - I just think that since Michael Matt is posting this situation in a public manner, he should provide more basic info, which doesn't require watching a video.
    All those questions are answered in the video. She told Fr. Stanich (Prior of the parish), Fr. Scott (Dist. Sup. at that time), and eventually Bishop Fellay (S.G.). She also told a confessor, which she does not name, but is a witness with her meeting with Fr. Scott, and is familiar with the case. 

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #18 on: November 20, 2020, 07:20:14 AM »
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  • All those questions are answered in the video. She told Fr. Stanich (Prior of the parish), Fr. Scott (Dist. Sup. at that time), and eventually Bishop Fellay (S.G.). She also told a confessor, which she does not name, but is a witness with her meeting with Fr. Scott, and is familiar with the case.

    Good to know. Thanks. Wish that Michael Matt would have put that info into his article. He seems to prefer to force his readers to watch the video to find out more, but that's not a good policy with a potentially scandalous situation.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #19 on: November 20, 2020, 08:43:07 AM »
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  • [size={defaultattr}][font={defaultattr}]In her video testimony, Miss Erica Kauffman alleges she was raped by a SSPX priest and bore his child. [size={defaultattr}][font={defaultattr}][...][/font][/size]
    I asked her for corroborating evidence, i.e., a birth certificate for her child (now adopted) or some other notarized docuмent that establishes paternity. This Miss Kauffman made available to me, along with other corroborating docuмents.  [/font][/size]

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    How about a copy of the police report she made at the time she was raped?


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #20 on: November 20, 2020, 02:14:03 PM »
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  • I'm having a bit of difficulty accepting this story because I knew Father Arzuaga fairly well.  He seemed to be a genuinely humble and gentle man.  He was my confessor for a time, and not even a hint of any of these "sociopathic" tendencies ever manifested themselves.  Obviously, of course, one can never REALLY know ... but this doesn't resonate with my experience of the man.  I considered him to be very saintly ... and I did not make that assessment lightly or out of some general reverence for the priesthood, since I had known many priests and seminarians with all their flaws and failings.  I'm shocked to hear of his bullying and intimidating people (at the beginning of this narrative).  My experience was the exact opposite, that he was very gentle and humble and deferential.  Perhaps he got into some kind of alcoholic mode later on (I knew him about a couple years before these incidents are said to have occurred).

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #21 on: November 20, 2020, 05:26:44 PM »
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  • The woman's narrative doesn't pass the smell test.

    A woman who knew that a rapist had the key to her apartment, would immediately get her landlord to change the lock, and/or purchase a simple internal lock.

    She didn't.

    Better yet, why didn't she call the police and say she was raped and that he has a key to her apartment?

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #22 on: November 20, 2020, 06:05:22 PM »
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  • P.S.- One thing I've never understood is how these girls/women do not have anyone to go to. If my sister had trouble with any man she works with, she would send for me and I would take care of it before it went to the point of rape.
    The woman's narrative doesn't pass the smell test.

    A woman who knew that a rapist had the key to her apartment, would immediately get her landlord to change the lock, and/or purchase a simple internal lock.

    She didn't.

    Better yet, why didn't she call the police and say she was raped and that he has a key to her apartment?
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    I must admit, I always have a problem with these types of stories for this reason.  Even the first time, it seems like so often the person didn't fight as hard as they could.  I would run away, or kick, punch, scratch, scream, and do whatever I could to ward off a rape. He'd have to beat me black & blue.  And I especially never understand the repeated cases.  If someone did this to me once, I would do as the posts above suggest: seek help from friends, ask landlord to change locks, or if my landlord was too cheap to do it, I'd change the locks myself.  If I didn't have the money for the locks, I'd find someone to loan me the money. I'd place a piece of heavy furniture in front of the door if I had to. I'd have some pepper spray handy, and if he tried again, spray him & call the police.  ANYTHING to prevent it happening again.  Maybe the woman in this story did some of this, but it doesn't sound like it from some of the comments here, and in other alleged cases of priest-abuse, it seems like the victim is always available for further abuse.  I don't understand it.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #23 on: November 20, 2020, 07:20:29 PM »
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    I must admit, I always have a problem with these types of stories for this reason.  Even the first time, it seems like so often the person didn't fight as hard as they could.  I would run away, or kick, punch, scratch, scream, and do whatever I could to ward off a rape. He'd have to beat me black & blue.  And I especially never understand the repeated cases.  If someone did this to me once, I would do as the posts above suggest: seek help from friends, ask landlord to change locks, or if my landlord was too cheap to do it, I'd change the locks myself.  If I didn't have the money for the locks, I'd find someone to loan me the money. I'd place a piece of heavy furniture in front of the door if I had to. I'd have some pepper spray handy, and if he tried again, spray him & call the police.  ANYTHING to prevent it happening again.  Maybe the woman in this story did some of this, but it doesn't sound like it from some of the comments here, and in other alleged cases of priest-abuse, it seems like the victim is always available for further abuse.  I don't understand it.
    It looks like questions about her lock on her door is really hitting a nerve with this woman. She responded to a comment on YouTube about that by saying:
    "Show your true identity and say this crap to my face. You don't intimidate me but I won't let you shame other victims who are commenting and reading. That was your last comment here."

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #24 on: November 20, 2020, 09:26:47 PM »
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  • Fr. Arzuaga was not a big/strong man and he was by her account heavily intoxicated.  Had she physically resisted, I don’t see how she couldn’t have thwarted any attempted rape on his part.  And the fact that this happened over and over again without her having done much of anything to prevent it ... I agree that it doesn’t pass a smell test.  It’s also interesting that she won’t name this confessor who could theoretically back up parts of her story.  So she would just lay there every night wondering if Fr. Arzuaga would show up to rape her?  “I’m glad he didn’t show up tonight to rape me.”  Wouldn’t you just move or do SOMEthing?  Then she plays the “shaming” card ... asserting that anyone who doesn’t accept everything she says to be true is shaming her.  That’s garbage.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #25 on: November 20, 2020, 09:52:03 PM »
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  • To reveal the hidden faults or sins of another without sufficient cause, in such wise that the person's reputation or good name is seriously damaged, is called the sin of detraction.
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    The "journalist" who is enabling this woman to tell her story, even if parts of it are true, is committing detraction because the journalist does not have "sufficient cause" to spread this story.  Even if the story spread to the ends of the earth, that's not the proper mode of justice, so this scandal only serves to hurt the Church; it doesn't help the victim in any way.  ...Unless the victim's purpose is revenge and the destruction of the priest in question.  Then such "justice" is sinful and both the journalist and the woman are totally in the wrong and should be begging God for mercy.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #26 on: November 21, 2020, 04:30:32 AM »
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  • This woman wrote:

    "Every confessor has given high commendation for coming forward via this video."

    It sounds like she has more than a couple of confessors. I wonder who these people are. I get the impression she is against the SSPX now, so is she asking Novus Ordo priests?

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #27 on: November 21, 2020, 05:00:28 AM »
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  • Fr. Arzuaga was not a big/strong man and he was by her account heavily intoxicated.  Had she physically resisted, I don’t see how she couldn’t have thwarted any attempted rape on his part.  And the fact that this happened over and over again without her having done much of anything to prevent it ... I agree that it doesn’t pass a smell test.  It’s also interesting that she won’t name this confessor who could theoretically back up parts of her story.  So she would just lay there every night wondering if Fr. Arzuaga would show up to rape her?  “I’m glad he didn’t show up tonight to rape me.”  Wouldn’t you just move or do SOMEthing?  Then she plays the “shaming” card ... asserting that anyone who doesn’t accept everything she says to be true is shaming her.  That’s garbage.

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    Thanks to all who posted details of her video which I never watched past the 3 minute mark. This entire affair is so full of holes that it is a hole, it is a hula-hoop.
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #28 on: November 21, 2020, 08:04:27 AM »
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    What does she want from the sspx/priest, if the baby is already adopted?  She can't get child support, so what does she want?  She says she doesn't hate the sspx, so obviously she wants revenge on the priest in question.  Revenge that she waited 25 years for, which means she's protected from the law.  This totally sounds fishy.
    If it were me, and the story were true, I would want other young girls to be aware this happened to protect themselves. Young girls tend to believe that their priests can do no wrong and their guard goes down around them when, in other circuмstances, they would be wary of a man. 
    So to answer the why: perhaps to possibly help for this to not happen to another girl. Someone else's daughter and sister. Some other family that would go through hell.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #29 on: November 21, 2020, 08:11:32 AM »
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  • If it were me, and the story were true, I would want other young girls to be aware this happened to protect themselves. Young girls tend to believe that their priests can do no wrong and their guard goes down around them when, in other circuмstances, they would be wary of a man.
    So to answer the why: perhaps to possibly help for this to not happen to another girl. Someone else's daughter and sister. Some other family that would go through hell.
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    Except, if she wanted to protect other girls, she should have done something about this years ago, the year it first happened.  And I mean, done more than "just lay there every night wondering if Fr. Arzuaga would show up to rape her?  'I’m glad he didn’t show up tonight to rape me.'”   I suppose maybe she just thought of this, or it took 23 years(?) to work up the courage?