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Offline Thorn

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Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
« Reply #120 on: June 15, 2021, 10:53:44 PM »
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  • Not to beat a dead horse, Bonaventure, but why did you leave out the last phrase?   Which is, in my Webster's --  also: such an opportunity.  Cathinfo was that opportunity.

    I repeat - this thread should be closed.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #121 on: June 15, 2021, 11:08:30 PM »
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  • This was not a child, she was a grown woman who had gone to college & was a teacher!  It's unfair to drag the parents into this & somehow blame them - however so slightly.  At what point can the parents let go?  Until she's married?  What if she never marries?  
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #122 on: June 16, 2021, 02:39:20 AM »
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  • P.S.- One thing I've never understood is how these girls/women do not have anyone to go to. If my sister had trouble with any man she works with, she would send for me and I would take care of it before it went to the point of rape.

    Not every woman has a supportive family or a male protector.  For example, right now, I’m very much on my own.  I’m geographically isolated, and if I weren’t, I have no male family members to turn to.  I’d have to rely on the police who won’t act unless a law is actually broken.  Are the cops really going to help if I report that a man gave me unwholesome looks or said something a bit off-color?  
    That is why I keep three large dogs and a firearm.  
    I can’t imagine needing the last mentioned after they set upon the evil intending priest.  Rather, I imagine him fleeing down the lane with his cassock in shreds.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #123 on: June 16, 2021, 05:50:54 AM »
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  • ...........“I asked her for corroborating evidence, i.e., a birth certificate for her child (now adopted) or some other notarized docuмent that establishes paternity. This Miss Kauffman made available to me, along with other corroborating docuмents.”.....

    This priest should have been removed from ministry about 20 years ago.  
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #124 on: June 16, 2021, 06:14:27 AM »
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  • Not to beat a dead horse, Bonaventure, but why did you leave out the last phrase?   Which is, in my Webster's --  also: such an opportunity.  Cathinfo was that opportunity.

    I repeat - this thread should be closed.
    Agreed 100%.  
    This whole thread reads like a trashy tabloid at the supermarket.  
    Erika--if this is really you, and not some imposter--face the reality.  This is what you're dealing with in Trad circles.  People who take the time to watch your entire video and then discuss it, really think what the sample population here think.  There are mixed opinions--probably mostly those of disbelief, and you are not going to change anybody's made-up mind online.  Whether you like it or not, it is what it is.



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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #125 on: June 16, 2021, 06:17:32 AM »
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  • Douay-Rheims Bible
    Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers.

    The priest should have been removed.

    A PRIEST fathered a child. If this is true, he should have been removed from ministry.  Maybe priests should get married instead of fornication and sơdơmy.

    The Catholic Church is in crisis because of fornication and sodomy.  It is a sin to condone it. 
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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #126 on: June 16, 2021, 08:23:16 AM »
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    The Catholic Church is in crisis because of fornication and sơdơmy.

    95% of this stuff happens because the Church has been infiltrated by communists/freemasons and they want to destroy the Church.  They use scandal, deviancy and perversion as one of their methods.  This is not normal behavior; it is a weapon.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #127 on: June 28, 2021, 12:18:44 AM »
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    This is a classic example of the defense mechanism of vicitim blaming"
    “victim blaming is all about placing unreasonable expectations on people (statistically mostly women) to act in a certain way to keep themselves safe, while expectations are rarely placed on the perpetrator (statistically mostly men) to put the feelings of others above their own.”
    That's exactly what's going on in this thread, IMO.  The priest perpetrator seems to escape necessary scrutiny.  Erica Kauffman is really not the issue here.  An apparently manipulative, predatory, one time sspx priest is. (Or is he still a priest with the Society?)  The real issue is the priest himself, his behavior, and the sspx hierarchy, which, it appears, has thus far covered it all up, or, at the very least, refuses to give it the attention the case deserves.


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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #128 on: June 28, 2021, 03:58:57 AM »
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    This will be my final words on this thread and probably the board, which I stumbled on after Googling my name. For those of you who have responded charitably and objectively (pro or con), I thank you for being good examples of Catholics for everyone.

    Firstly, I did not come forward with what happened to me in order to get some kind of 'street justice'. My case is in the Hands of a Divine Tribunal and I am very okay with that. I wanted SSPX faithful to know that there is a predator and hirelings within who won't protect you and your children, so DO IT FOR YOURSELVES. Learn from my mistakes.

    Secondly, I or any other victim who comes forward, stand NOTHING to gain and EVERYTHING to lose by doing so, as evidenced by this existing 7-8 page thread, which I had no idea existed until a few weeks ago. After you all became aware of my video testimony from the Remnant did even one of you reach out to me privately with your concerns/objections before venting your spleens and shredding me to pieces HERE? Doubtfully, because in such a case the victim is presumed guilty while the accused is presumed innocent.

    Thirdly, in the videos, which so many refuse to watch but feel expertly capable of commenting on, you will find a detailed time-line, docuмents and logical arguments to support my claims. No one is obligated to watch any or all videos, but if you don't you lose the prerogative to comment on the topic.

    Lastly, and most importantly, I turned to the SSPX authorities first. I went directly to Fellay as confirmed by his First Assistant, Pfluger. The prior and assistant priest (Stanich and Hewko, respectively) had knowledge of what Arzuaga was doing to me and failed to help. If it was a mutual, consensual relationship, then Stanich was obligated to fire me immediately because of the morality clause in my teaching contract. He did not. Ask him why he failed so miserably to do his job. I further pursued keeping Fellay in the loop via written correspondence to which he replied even years after the fact in my favor. I spoke to and met with various District Superiors over the course of TWENTY-THREE years before going public to avoid causing the actions of one bad priest to tarnish the good work of the SSPX.

    There you have it. Take it or leave it. Call me 'Jezabel' and send in the rabid dogs.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #129 on: June 28, 2021, 06:24:56 AM »
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  • That's exactly what's going on in this thread, IMO.  The priest perpetrator seems to escape necessary scrutiny.  Erica Kauffman is really not the issue here.  An apparently manipulative, predatory, one time sspx priest is. (Or is he still a priest with the Society?)  The real issue is the priest himself, his behavior, and the sspx hierarchy, which, it appears, has thus far covered it all up, or, at the very least, refuses to give it the attention the case deserves.

    Nobody’s defending Arzuaga’s sacrilegious fornication.  What’s at issue is whether he committed a sin (consensual fornication against his vows with a grown woman) or a crime (rape).  You’re setting up a false dilemma and deliberately mischaracterizing the debate out of your animosity against the SSPX.  I don’t like the SSPX, but I’m not going to lose objectivity over it.  There’s no evidence that this was not consensual.  This happens all the time in the secular world, where a woman shows no outward sign of resisting a man’s advances and then later alleges rape.

    As for the SSPX, they did take some action against Arzuaga and didn’t cover up anything.  You could argue that the action they took wasn’t severe enough, and I would concur, but that’s not the same as a coverup ... which is the chief concern here.

    I find no credible evidence of rape or if coverup, but only of consensual sacrilegious fornication and too light a punishment.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #130 on: June 28, 2021, 06:29:22 AM »
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  • Nobody’s defending Arzuaga’s sacrilegious fornication.  What’s at issue is whether he committed a sin (consensual fornication against his vows with a grown woman) or a crime (rape).  You’re setting up a false dilemma and deliberately mischaracterizing the debate out of your animosity against the SSPX.  I don’t like the SSPX, but I’m not going to lose objectivity over it.  There’s no evidence that this was not consensual.  This happens all the time in the secular world, where a woman shows no outward sign of resisting a man’s advances and then later alleges rape.

    As for the SSPX, they did take some action against Arzuaga and didn’t cover up anything.  You could argue that the action they took wasn’t severe enough, and I would concur, but that’s not the same as a coverup ... which is the chief concern here.

    I find no credible evidence of rape or if coverup, but only of consensual sacrilegious fornication and too light a punishment.

    Frankly, it is better for the world if EVERYONE thought and acted like Ladislaus (in the quote above), and a few "rapists" got off the hook,
    rather than everyone acting out of knee-jerk emotion and "my group your group" bias, and "accidentally" nailed an actual perpetrator despite lack of evidence.

    In other words, I'd rather be WRONG for the right reason (rationality, fairness, logic), than RIGHT for the wrong reason (by accident, or due to emotion, jingoism, team politics).
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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #131 on: June 28, 2021, 06:54:10 AM »
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  • Yes, it’s unfortunate when a rapist goes unpunished.  If Erica had gone to the police right away, there are ways to establish rape.  I can see a scenario where the victim is so traumatized, especially due to confusion about how to respond, given that this was a priest, that she might not take this step of going to the police.  Unfortunately, however, you can’t convict someone of rape without SOME evidence beyond the woman’s word long after the fact.  Even if the woman isn’t consciously lying, it often happens that in retrospective reflection on the incident a subsequent regret is imposed on the original event and conflated with having resisted the advances.  I don’t believe it would have been all that difficult to resist the advances of a drunken Arzuaga.  It’s even possible that she didn’t resist because she was confused about this behavior coming from a priest.  Perhaps it was rape; perhaps it wasn’t ... but all we’re left with is a “she said he said” situation.  Perhaps Solomon might be able to flush out the truth but until then we have little to go on.

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #132 on: June 28, 2021, 10:39:14 AM »
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    EK: Firstly, I did not come forward with what happened to me in order to get some kind of 'street justice'. My case is in the Hands of a Divine Tribunal and I am very okay with that. I wanted SSPX faithful to know that there is a predator and hirelings within who won't protect you and your children, so DO IT FOR YOURSELVES. Learn from my mistakes.

    Secondly, I or any other victim who comes forward, stand NOTHING to gain and EVERYTHING to lose by doing so, as evidenced by this existing 7-8 page thread, which I had no idea existed until a few weeks ago. After you all became aware of my video testimony from the Remnant did even one of you reach out to me privately with your concerns/objections before venting your spleens and shredding me to pieces HERE? Doubtfully, because in such a case the victim is presumed guilty while the accused is presumed innocent.

    Erika, I don't wish to be associated with people "who are shredding you to pieces."  In fact, I may be the one on CI earlier who brought your tragic case to light. My wife and I stand with you against these sspx priest predators. (There are far more than one)  Furthermore, we support you in all the actions you have attempted against the "hirelings" who run the whole show.  It's a coverup from day one.  That's the modus operandi of the sspx hierarchy in most, if not all, such cases.  We are convinced that the SSPX is a Catholic cult, or was turned into one after the passage of years.
    BTW, anyone, what is the latest news on Fr. Arzuaga?  Where is he?  Is he still a priest with the Society?

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #133 on: June 28, 2021, 10:58:01 AM »
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  • Secondly, I or any other victim who comes forward, stand NOTHING to gain and EVERYTHING to lose by doing so, as evidenced by this existing 7-8 page thread, which I had no idea existed until a few weeks ago. After you all became aware of my video testimony from the Remnant did even one of you reach out to me privately with your concerns/objections before venting your spleens and shredding me to pieces HERE? Doubtfully, because in such a case the victim is presumed guilty while the accused is presumed innocent.

    There have been cases where priests have been falsely accused. More than you would think. It seems that you would have us believe that if a priest is accused, then he is ALWAYS guilty, and no one can ever be allowed question it, and if anyone does question it, then it means that they are savagely attacking the 'victim.'

    I am not presuming that you are guilty, but I'm not presuming that you are completely innocent. You admitted that you made mistakes, and you seem to believe that anyone who takes issue with your overly-emotional video must, of course, want more than anything to shred you to pieces. Well, that's a very immature and childish response to our concerns about the situation.

    I hope that you find peace one day, and forgive anyone who was involved with your situation. But we are not responsible for what happened, and there's no way for us to know what really happened, at this point.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: SSPX Scandal from the Remnant.
    « Reply #134 on: June 28, 2021, 11:13:50 AM »
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  • Erika, I don't wish to be associated with people "who are shredding you to pieces."  In fact, I may be the one on CI earlier who brought your tragic case to light. My wife and I stand with you against these sspx priest predators. (There are far more than one)  Furthermore, we support you in all the actions you have attempted against the "hirelings" who run the whole show.  It's a coverup from day one.  That's the modus operandi of the sspx hierarchy in most, if not all, such cases.  We are convinced that the SSPX is a Catholic cult, or was turned into one after the passage of years.
    BTW, anyone, what is the latest news on Fr. Arzuaga?  Where is he?  Is he still a priest with the Society?

    Right, I'll vouch for the fact that there's no accusation against the SSPX that hollingsworth won't believe, with or without any actual evidence.  So carry on.