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SSPX ordination cards without the bishop's name
« on: August 26, 2025, 03:55:54 AM »
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    • Is it traditional to have ordination cards without the name of the bishop who ordained the priest?
    I have some ordination cards from new SSPX priests and of those from Econe, Dillwyn, and La Reja, only those from La Reja list the bishop who ordained them.
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    Re: SSPX ordination cards without the bishop's name
    « Reply #1 on: August 26, 2025, 07:33:59 AM »
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    • It's really just what the Ordinand wants on his ordination card.

    I have been to the ordination of about 80 SSPX Priests in Dillwyn and Winona between 2010 and 2025, and less than half have the Bishop's name on them, but many (less than hf) do have it. 

    As I said, it's really up to the Ordinand since it's his ordination card. 
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    Re: SSPX ordination cards without the bishop's name
    « Reply #2 on: August 26, 2025, 07:55:39 AM »
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    • I have several cards of priests ordained in the 1950s and early 1960s and they do not have the bishop's name.
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    Re: SSPX ordination cards without the bishop's name
    « Reply #3 on: August 26, 2025, 08:26:48 AM »
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    • I have a very large collection of ordination cards from the SSPX priests, and I would say maybe a quarter list the ordaining bishop. Usually, a quote from scripture or a saint, the name, the date, the location, usually a request to pray for them, but not very often the bishop. Usually if you have the date and the location, finding out which bishop is (usually) relatively easy. I also find that asking the priest outright who ordained them is never a problem, usually the priest is quite proud to tell you. I know a priest who enthusiastically told me how Mgr. Tissier called into question the new rites of ordination and consecration at his ordination 
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    Re: SSPX ordination cards without the bishop's name
    « Reply #4 on: August 26, 2025, 11:45:38 AM »
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    • Ascertaining that a priest had been ordained SSPX is usually fairly straightforward.  You can just Google their name "Father [so-and-so] ordained [or ordination] SSPX" and then maybe add "Winona" or "Virginia" or "St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary" etc.  If they were ordained there, you can usually find some announcement of their ordination.  At that point, doesn't matter which of the current SSPX bishops ordained them.

    NOW, a Huonder doing ordinations ... that would be a whole new can of worms, and it may be why God took him from this earth.

    That's also why I fear about the next bishop they'd get approval for, where they'd try to get one who was Conciliar-ordained, or Conciliar-bishop-ordained (e.g. Huonder).  I do think that's what Huonder was there for.  They started boiling the frog by having Huonder do some holy oils, sending out that trial balloon to assess reaction.  They were going to do it again, but Huonder dropped before he could.

    Huonder was already saying Mass publicly at the seminary, so the priests were forced to become accustomed to it ... or else leave.

    Next step likely would have been for Huonder to "ordain" some priests.  Then, of course, after a few years, one of those "priests" would be chosen to be the nexft "bishop".  I believe 100% that this was their plan, but God intervened to spare the faithful.
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    Re: SSPX ordination cards without the bishop's name
    « Reply #5 on: August 26, 2025, 02:52:38 PM »
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    • I have a small collection of cards, the oldest from 1956 and 1958, through last Spring.
    Some name the Bishop; some do not.
    The 1956 names him, the 1958 does not.
    I don’t think it means anything, just the preference of the new priest.

    It’s like a wedding or obituary notice. It’s up to the couple or the relatives. 
    Sometimes presiding clergy is mentioned, other times not.

    There is such a thing as reading meaning into things where none is intended.
    Remember when Bishop Dolan died suddenly, only a few days before ordinations!
    If the ordinands ordered cards with his name on them, they had to rush reorder, 
    pass them out late, change them by hand, or maybe not bother.
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