It was posted today on the Mundabor blog that the SSPX has acquired the Minoritenkirche church in Vienna, Austria. The church was built in the year 1224 for the followers of St. Francis of Assisi.

Does anyone know if this is really true? If true, I would hope that he SSPX will not waver from the Traditional Catholic faith in this church, as handed down to them by Archbishop Lefebvre. Hopefully, they will not join forces with the conciliar church in this new church. 

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Do you mean that they have been given ownership, or that the diocese is letting them use it?

Very different implications.

Then again, maybe not: Pre-ralliement, SSPX had to purchase through third parties, because the bishops refused (or were not allowed to) sell property to them.  

Has that changed?  If so, why?

A couple other interesting observations:

1) Austria is the home of the Jaidhofer Foundation, where in the past, a $150 million donation was given to the SSPX...along with the request of the donating family to have Zionist liberal SSPXER manage it (Trojan Horse?).  

They were also previously given an actual castle to use as the district HQ.

2) Whether sale or permission to use, this development follows only one week behind the Austrian District Superior’s decision yo retract and recant his prohibition against Catholics using the abortion vaccine.  Is there any relation between the two developments?

Do you mean that they have been given ownership, or that the diocese is letting them use it?

Very different implications.

Then again, maybe not: Pre-ralliement, SSPX had to purchase through third parties, because the bishops refused (or were not allowed to) sell property to them.  

Has that changed?  If so, why?

A couple other interesting observations:

1) Austria is the home of the Jaidhofer Foundation, where in the past, a $150 million donation was given to the SSPX...along with the request of the donating family to have Zionist liberal SSPXER manage it (Trojan Horse?).  

They were also previously given an actual castle to use as the district HQ.

2) Whether sale or permission to use, this development follows only one week behind the Austrian District Superior’s decision yo retract and recant his prohibition against Catholics using the abortion vaccine.  Is there any relation between the two developments?

Mundabor's blog: "The SSPX has been given the Minoritenkirche in Vienna."

This implies it is still under diocesan control, and therefore possible leverage against the SSPX.

I am now more interested in discovering whether there is a link between the Austrian District Superior's reversal/retraction of his prohibition against the abortion jab, and the gifting of the use of this church.

If it will later be discovered that the gifting of this chapel preceded the retraction, was there nevertheless an agreement beforehand that the retraction would be forthcoming?

These are QUESTIONS, not ACCUSATIONS.

PS: As of May 13, 2021 the church was still actively serving an Italian congregation, as well as acting as a concert hall.  https://www.visitingvienna.com/entertainment/minoritenkirche/

Mundabor's blog: "The SSPX has been given the Minoritenkirche in Vienna."

This implies it is still under diocesan control, and therefore possible leverage against the SSPX.

I am now more interested in discovering whether there is a link between the Austrian District Superior's reversal/retraction of his prohibition against the abortion jab, and the gifting of the use of this church.

If it will later be discovered that the gifting of this chapel preceded the retraction, was there nevertheless an agreement beforehand that the retraction would be forthcoming?

These are QUESTIONS, not ACCUSATIONS.

PS: As of May 13, 2021 the church was still actively serving an Italian congregation, as well as acting as a concert hall.  https://www.visitingvienna.com/entertainment/minoritenkirche/

According to GloriaTV: https://gloria.tv/post/ujeFiVmiFXbK3bCgZzBVum96a


"PiusX: Big Blow for Vienna Archdiocese

The renowned Minoritenkirche in the very centre of Vienna, Austria, the former Italian National Church, was given by its owner, the Italian Congregation, to the Society of Saint Pius X, they announced in a circular email."

In other words, it does not seem to have been gifted by the Archdiocese.

Not sure how things work in Austria, but it seems strange for a Catholic group of laymen to own a church independent of the Archdiocese.  Stranger still to gift it to the SSPX with no publicly known previous relations with them (i.e., there wasn't even an SSPX mission in Vienna).

Why did the Italian Congregation (who the day before had been Novus Ordo) just gift it to the SSPX???

Were they told to do so by the Vienna Archdiocese?

Can Austrian member "Against the Heresies" shed any light on any of these questions?

Some remarks:
 
1) The news is true. In an internal email, the District Superior stated, "Today our beloved Society has officially become the owner of one of the most prestigious and beautiful churches in Vienna, the Minorite Church of Madonna della Neve, in a prime location in the 1st district right next to the Federal Chancellery."
 
2) The Minorite Church (Friars Minor Conventual Church) is actually privately owned and does not belong to the Diocese. This is for historical reasons (expropriation of church property under liberal/masonic Emperor Joseph II. and subsequent donation of the church to a private association, the Italian Congregation).
This private association has now transferred the church to the SSPX. Why, I do not know. In the comments at “gloria.tv” there are two pieces of information:
a) the Italian Congregation did not want to give the church to the diocese under any circuмstances
b) the church was supposedly offered to the Society of St. Peter before, but the latter did not react (probably to avoid a conflict with the diocese).
 
3) The SSPX has had a branch in Vienna since 1981. Since 1984 the SSPX has celebrated Mass in the present chapel. However, for almost 20 years they have been looking for a better location. In this respect, the interest in vacant or empty churches is not surprising.
 
4) Why the church was finally given to the SSPX, I cannot answer. However, one should not forget: Maintaining such a huge building and all the artwork is very expensive. It happens again and again that in Austria you can buy an old building for a symbolic Euro, but with the obligation to maintain this building. And this is where the financial challenge lies.

 
5) There is certainly no connection with the SSPX position on vaccination. This is a completely unfounded and arbitrary speculation.
 
 
My personal assessment
 
The matter is not yet settled. There will certainly be attempts to challenge the donation.
 
I would be happy if the SSPX does not get the church. The financial burden would be gigantic.
Above all, the SSPX would be in the spotlight. This is not a small village church but one of the most important churches in Vienna, absolutely in the center, right next to the Chancellor's official residence. There is also a lot of tourism there. In addition, Cardinal Schönborn's anger will ensure that what is done or said there is closely monitored. Easily scandals can be produced and maybe even violations of the law (e.g. hate speech) can become a huge problem for the SSPX.
The pastoral care is not helped by all this. (At the time of the persecution of Christians, Christians also did not erect a religious building on the Roman Forum. It is no different today. The superiors should be a little more wise about this).

Plus I wonder if there's some ambiguity in the term "given."  Was there a transfer or ownership or just the right of use?

Perhaps the SSPX will keep that Luther Table in there ... in case some NO presbyter wishes to concelebrate in the ordinary form.

"Given" means that the SSPX is the new owner.

Of course the SSPX won't keep the Luther Table. (The only reason to tolerate this object would be some prescripton regarding monument conservation. But I don't think that is the case here.)

"Given" means that the SSPX is the new owner.

Of course the SSPX won't keep the Luther Table. (The only reason to tolerate this object would be some prescripton regarding monument conservation. But I don't think that is the case here.)

That second part was said "tongue-in-cheek" ... as a joke.

Based on the video on Gloria TV, the table appears to have been removed already. 


I take the opposite stance. I hope this rattles everyone in the Vienna diocese. We have got to stop this timid attitude. Make war on the Novus Ordo. 

I have been to Vienna several times. This is a great thing with the sacrileges going on in St Stephen's.