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Offline Miser Peccator

Re: SSPX, indult, sedevacantist seminarians, priests with annulled marriages?
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2021, 09:16:39 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on February 17, 2021, 09:00:15 AM
That's actually possible.  Whoever did the marriage prep dropped the ball.  Maturity is utter BS, but if this guy went in with the notion that marriage isn't necessarily permanent and for life, that could certainly have vitiated his intention.

If I were a priest, I would make both parties sign a docuмent which clearly states that they freely accept all that Catholic marriage entails or else I would refuse to marry them ... so there isn't any of this funny business later.
Yeah, I mean you only have to be 16 if you are male and 15 if you are female.
I have heard a talk by a NO priest who said his goal was to annulment proof his weddings and prepared the couples with that goal in mind.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: SSPX, indult, sedevacantist seminarians, priests with annulled marriages?
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2021, 09:18:09 AM »
Quote from: Miser Peccator on February 14, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
My tribunal kept asking me if I didn't want to find someone else.  ??!


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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: SSPX, indult, sedevacantist seminarians, priests with annulled marriages?
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2021, 09:19:51 AM »
Quote from: Miser Peccator on February 17, 2021, 09:16:39 AM
Yeah, I mean you only have to be 16 if you are male and 15 if you are female.
I have heard a talk by a NO priest who said his goal was to annulment proof his weddings and prepared the couples with that goal in mind.

Right, and making them both sign a docuмent (with a notary) goes a long way to that.  It should be worded in such a way that there's zero wiggle room.  Then, later, they can claim all they want that they didn't "mean" it, but so long as they knew what the words meant and signed it, then they MEANT it, regardless of some internal forum trickery.
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Offline Miser Peccator

Re: SSPX, indult, sedevacantist seminarians, priests with annulled marriages?
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2021, 10:06:49 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on February 17, 2021, 09:19:51 AM
Right, and making them both sign a docuмent (with a notary) goes a long way to that.  It should be worded in such a way that there's zero wiggle room.  Then, later, they can claim all they want that they didn't "mean" it, but so long as they knew what the words meant and signed it, then they MEANT it, regardless of some internal forum trickery.
Seriously...I mean try to pull that kind of thing with your mortgage lender! LOL :P
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Offline Mirari Vos

Re: SSPX, indult, sedevacantist seminarians, priests with annulled marriages?
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2021, 11:02:03 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on February 17, 2021, 09:00:15 AM
That's actually possible.  Whoever did the marriage prep dropped the ball.  Maturity is utter BS, but if this guy went in with the notion that marriage isn't necessarily permanent and for life, that could certainly have vitiated his intention.



I’m not so sure if that could be a defense. Ignoring the questionable grounds that he believed “you can always just get an annulment", which would in fact have to be proved, I think the time factor of 25 years of marriage and not knowing that marriage is a permanent bond would be an insurmountable threshold to get past. He basically gave his consent for all of those years and would be laughed out of any real ecclesiastical court.
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