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Re: SSPX had saintly ABL. Who do the sedes got?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2024, 03:16:01 PM »
Archbishop Thuc.

ARCHBISHOP THUC (ourladyoftheholyrosarychapel.com)

Unlike ABL, Archbishop Thuc had a papal mandate.

Re: SSPX had saintly ABL. Who do the sedes got?
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2024, 03:16:40 PM »
Perhaps the closest individual who MIGHT be in a position to become some kind of +Lefebvre-like leader would be a +Vigano.

I agree.


Re: SSPX had saintly ABL. Who do the sedes got?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2024, 05:19:27 PM »
Archbishop Thuc.

ARCHBISHOP THUC (ourladyoftheholyrosarychapel.com)

Unlike ABL, Archbishop Thuc had a papal mandate.

That's interesting.  Does that mandate allow for bishops at any time into the future?

Re: SSPX had saintly ABL. Who do the sedes got?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2024, 05:37:45 PM »
Ok, let's say the Archbishop was providentially prepared by God to de-facto lead the Traditional Movement for many years, start the SSPX, etc. This much is simply a matter of history. If you read his biography, it's clear he was arranged by God to help so many Catholics into lifeboats so they could survive (keep the Faith).

The Archbishop's crowning virtue (besides charity) was PRUDENCE. He went as far as he needed to in his resistance, but not a step farther. He did nothing without justification or a good reason.

But the Archbishop died in 1991. Would he have become Sedevacantist if he had lived to 2024? We honestly don't know.

But here's the point: I (and others) adhered to the SSPX because they were the most Catholic position, blessed by God, with good fruit, not going a step further than they had to, in their resistance/opposition to Modernism and the new man-made Conciliar Church. It was the safest place to park your Faith during the Crisis in the Church, and +ABL was clearly providential, so he was a good man to follow.

But today, aside from following the same line (today it would be the Resistance, as the neo-SSPX is closer to the FSSP now than to the classic SSPX position), what obviously providential figure is there to trust or follow?

No one. There is no sedevacantist individual OR group which screams "God is here", or "this is where you should leave (wherever you are right now) and get your butt over here, because HERE is the safest/best place to keep the Faith during this Crisis in the Church."

What Sedevacantist leader, what sedevacantist group's founding, reads like a Lives of the Saints founding of the Redemptorists, Benedictines, Dominicans, Jesuits, etc.? I'm not aware of any. CMRI was founded by Schuckardt, so that one's disqualified as a modern-day Saint story.
Who cares.  What have you went out into the desert to see?  

Re: SSPX had saintly ABL. Who do the sedes got?
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2024, 07:12:16 PM »
You’re forgetting about two saintly monks living in poverty in a trailer park in Fillmore NY who have been “cancelled” by the rest of Traditional Catholicism by making sure nobody gets to hide their dirty laundry 

(In case it’s not obvious, this is a joke)