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SSPX consecrations could mark new rupture within the Church.
« on: March 01, 2026, 09:20:50 PM »
Pray for peace and unity in the Church, including between Rome and the Society. Lord have Mercy.

"On 2 February 2026, the feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin, the Reverend Father Davide Pagliarani, Superior General of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, during the ceremony of the taking of the cassock which he presided over at the International Seminary of Saint-Curé-d’Ars in Flavigny-sur-Ozerain, France, publicly announced his decision to entrust the bishops of the Society with the task of proceeding with new episcopal consecrations, on 1 July next."

https://fsspx.news/en/news/general-house-fsspx-announces-future-consecrations-57009


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Re: SSPX consecrations could mark new rupture within the Church.
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2026, 10:01:17 PM »
Hello and welcome to CInfo.

  Please say which Church you are discussing... the way I see it, Rome is normally considered as the Modernist /Liberal church; the Vatican is its cousin, all the "officials" such as Card. Fernandez.

  The Catholic Church is the true Church of all time.  I believe in the unity, in the sense that  Pope Leo XIV is the true Pope, but we have to fight his scandalous declarations. He is part of the rotting apple, and prudent Catholics refuse the rot that was wrought since Vat II.

  Practising our Traditional Faith with real SACRAMENTS & MORALS is a part of Unity, the healthy part of the apple... However, praying for peace with Rome = leads to loss of the Faith.

I hope and pray that Rome converts , soon.
There are a couple of Threads about the Consecrations on CInfo, Feb 3 

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-consecrations-announced/

Didn't Ste Thérèse of Lisieux say:''I am ready to die to defend the Liturgy. ?'', paraphrased.

Our Lady, co-Redemptrix, pray for us.

Holy Lent...:pray:








Re: SSPX consecrations could mark new rupture within the Church.
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2026, 06:38:49 AM »
Hello and welcome to CInfo.

  Please say which Church you are discussing... the way I see it, Rome is normally considered as the Modernist /Liberal church; the Vatican is its cousin, all the "officials" such as Card. Fernandez.

  The Catholic Church is the true Church of all time.  I believe in the unity, in the sense that  Pope Leo XIV is the true Pope, but we have to fight his scandalous declarations. He is part of the rotting apple, and prudent Catholics refuse the rot that was wrought since Vat II.

  Practising our Traditional Faith with real SACRAMENTS & MORALS is a part of Unity, the healthy part of the apple... However, praying for peace with Rome = leads to loss of the Faith.

I hope and pray that Rome converts , soon.
There are a couple of Threads about the Consecrations on CInfo, Feb 3

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-consecrations-announced/

Didn't Ste Thérèse of Lisieux say:''I am ready to die to defend the Liturgy. ?'', paraphrased.

Our Lady, co-Redemptrix, pray for us.

Holy Lent...:pray:
Hello, and thanks for the Welcome.

I'm Indult trad. I believe Pope Leo XIV is the Valid and Legitimate Pope. I would like to see Jesus solemnly enthroned as King in the Vatican, and Our Lady Co-Redemptrix as Mother and Queen. But I think the SSPX should also sign a Canonical agreement and enter full communion. One must respect the Pope, submit to him, and live in communion with him if one wants to go to Heaven. One can disagree here and there, but must disagree respectfully.

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Re: SSPX consecrations could mark new rupture within the Church.
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2026, 06:52:09 AM »
Hello, and thanks for the Welcome.

I'm Indult trad. I believe Pope Leo XIV is the Valid and Legitimate Pope. I would like to see Jesus solemnly enthroned as King in the Vatican, and Our Lady Co-Redemptrix as Mother and Queen. But I think the SSPX should also sign a Canonical agreement and enter full communion. One must respect the Pope, submit to him, and live in communion with him if one wants to go to Heaven. One can disagree here and there, but must disagree respectfully.
SSPX can't sign an agreement - because they do not agree with the new, heretical doctrines of V2. 

Re: SSPX consecrations could mark new rupture within the Church.
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2026, 06:57:05 AM »
Hello. 
I'm afraid that your understand of the matter is not accurate. 
Firstly, if you accept the term "full communion," then you would implicitly admit that there is such a thing as "partial communion," which would mean that schismatics and Protestants somehow have a share in the True Church while maintaining their rejection of the entirety of the Deposit of Faith. Full and partial communion are novel terms concocted at The Second Vatican Council. One is either Catholic, or is not.
Secondly: to state that the Society should sign a canonical "agreement" with Rome and should respect the Pope is both an oversimplification and a misleading statement. 
The Archbishop, and the Society have always (and continue to do so) recognized and respected the reigning Pontiff. (Some may legitimately disagree on matters pertaining to post V2 popes.) If this were not the case, they would not have bothered to try to get permission to consecrate. 
Furthermore, one does not negotiate with superiors. In a normal case, superior says, subject obeys. 
The Council has demonstrably departed and ruptured from Sacred Tradition. I could provide proof of it in the council docuмents if you wish to study it for yourself. 
That being said...in order for the Society to enjoy "full communion," it would have to accept the Council, it's errors, and the mass that it produced that outwardly displays the new theology and religion that it put forth from 1965-1969.
One may not do (or be silent.about) evil so that good may result. The end does not justify the means. 
A father of a family would lose his right to be obeyed if he tried to force his children to eat a soup which, although mostly good, had a small or even trace amount of poison in it. (Principle of the integral good).
The goal is not merely to be recognized by the modernists...the goal is to preserve the faith. Faith before obedience. Authority exists only to guard and teach the faith. When it departs from the end for which it was established, it loses it's right to be obeyed.