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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Miseremini on February 03, 2024, 05:14:55 PM
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Just got a notice from Fr. Alphonsus cSSr
A couple years ago +Fellay encouraged him to buy land and start a Traditional Redemptorist formation house, to be connected to the SSPX.
After donations and building starts, Menzingen now closed down the formation house and it will now be used only as a retreat house.
Why??? Too much competition for the new SSPX seminary?
Redemptorists are great missionary priests as can be seen from Fr. Alphonsus' youtube contributions.
All Posts (https://redemptoris.org/blog?blog=y)
RETREATS AT HRH
3 February 2024|Monastery News
After we had been encouraged by Bishop Fellay to start a house of formation ad experimentum for future Redemptorist novices, Menzingen has implemented a protocol for religious orders that entails us closing our novitiate for now.
Although the novitiate is closing, Holy Redeemer House will continue to remain open as a Redemptorist Monastery associated with the Society of St. Pius X, and will act as a house of prayer and contemplation, as well as a base for our apostolate of Parish Missions.
Our building project, now halfway completed, will be used for men’s retreats, which is an integral part of our Rule and apostolate. Men will be able to come singly or in groups of up to 6 to experience a Redemptorist retreat.
Local singles, couples, and families will also be able to arrange a guided day of recollection, with the opportunity to speak to a priest.
Our building project should be ready to receive retreatants later this spring. The “barnastery” will be dedicated to the memory of Fr. George Kathrein, C.Ss.R.
We are sincerely grateful to all our benefactors for your support. Your intentions are remembered at daily Mass and in our daily prayers. As we go forward, your prayers and support will continue to be important to us.
If you have any questions, or if you are interested in scheduling a retreat or a day of recollection at Holy Redeemer House, please feel free to contact us at our website, redemptoris.org.
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From their website, when +Fellay (he of the two faces and fake smile) blessed their House of Formation:
(https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/4fbc8198-72cf-4555-9763-affb7ad0fb86/IMG_0036.JPG/:/rs=w:1280,h:960)
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Very interesting that Father uses the term "Menzingen", a pejorative term used by the Resistance.
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This is pretty disappointing. One wonders why the redemptorists were told to close the novitiate.
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Very interesting that Father uses the term "Menzingen", a pejorative term used by the Resistance.
Looks like they just cut him off at the knees. This news is terrible for all involved.
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Looks like they just cut him off at the knees. This news is terrible for all involved.
Seems reminiscent of +Fellay withholding ordinations back in the day. Maybe Fr. Alphonsus said something Fellay didn't appreciate. It's either the Fellay way or the highway.
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Very interesting that Father uses the term "Menzingen", a pejorative term used by the Resistance.
It's like we talk about "Washington" (US Gov't) doing this or that, or "Rome" (Conciliar Church) doing this or that.
But yeah -- they act like a Church of their own, or a government authority. So it's appropriate.
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Notice this line "implemented a protocol for religious orders that entails us closing our novitiate for now."
So was the protocol that said the Redemptorist must close for now or was that protocol had conditions that Fr. Alphonsus could not agree to and thus he has to close for now. What about the other religious groups, did the protocol apply to them too, and are any of them closing or are they complying? What was the conditions?
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Notice this line "implemented a protocol for religious orders that entails us closing our novitiate for now."
So was the protocol that said the Redemptorist must close for now or was that protocol had conditions that Fr. Alphonsus could not agree to and thus he has to close for now. What about the other religious groups, did the protocol apply to them too, and are any of them closing or are they complying? What was the conditions?
Good point. What is this "mysterious protocol" that the SSPX hasn't said *anything* about publicly?
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If there has ever been a time when the world needed 'a parish mission', that time is now. The Redemptorists would be one of the key locations or 'strategies' you'd infuse with cash and we know there isn't a shortage of that. Pretty sad.
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Good point. What is this "mysterious protocol" that the SSPX hasn't said *anything* about publicly?
The story I got was *if* +Fellay was still district superior, then there would be no issue. However, +Fellay was in no position of authority to authorize the startup. IOW, they're closing it down because he did not go through the proper channels. Needless to say that Fr. Alphonsus and the others there, along with the faithful who go there for Mass and sacraments, are displeased with the decision. But it's not over, not just yet anyway.
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Seems reminiscent of +Fellay withholding ordinations back in the day. Maybe Fr. Alphonsus said something Fellay didn't appreciate. It's either the Fellay way or the highway.
It's possible that one one of his missions Father Alphonsus said something from the pulpit that got reported back to +Fellay, and then from +Fellay to "Menzingen".
I think Father Alphonsus is a terrific priest. He filled in for Father Carley for a couple weeks about 7-8 years ago when Father broke his hip.
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The story I got was *if* +Fellay was still district superior, then there would be no issue. However, +Fellay was in no position of authority to authorize the startup. IOW, they're closing it down because he did not go through the proper channels. Needless to say that Fr. Alphonsus and the others there, along with the faithful who go there for Mass and sacraments, are displeased with the decision. But it's not over, not just yet anyway.
So Father John Fullerton shut it down? I doubt it, since Father said Menzingen. I think you meant that +Fellay is no longer Superior General, not District Superior. I don't think it's solely up to a District Superior.
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It's my understanding that Father was going to model the Order after the Transalpine Redemptorists on Papa Stronsay in Scotland, BEFORE they contracted with Rome (and were promptly reined in)
If I remember correctly they followed a monastic lifestyle and gave missions and retreats and heavily promoted devotion to Our Mother of Perpetual Help following the example of St. Alphonsus de Ligouri. They also continued/established/resurrected the Purgatorian Society and had a fantastic monthly paper the "CATHOLIC". which was the best I've ever subscribed to.
They were founded in 1988 and affiliated with the SSPX under the Archbishop.
The SSPX mainly function as "parish priests" with schools. I think what Father was aiming to resurrect is badly needed by us in tradition.
I understand Father needs a Bishop for his endeavour... + Williamson?
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I think Father Alphonsus is a terrific priest.
He's an excellent confessor and probably the best I've gone to. His ability to be succinct while cutting to the essence has always been amazing quite frankly.
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He's an excellent confessor and probably the best I've gone to. His ability to be succinct while cutting to the essence has always been amazing quite frankly.
He would tell everyone while preaching the mission that a General Confession should take no more than 10 minutes, saying that there are only 10 commandments, and that naming the sin (mortal sins) and the # is all that's required. I think that many people think of Confession as a counseling session, or confuse it with spiritual direction, or sometimes seek spiritual direction in the Confessional because they don't otherwise have access to it.
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I always liked his three-fold mantra of 'be brief, be blunt, be gone !'
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I always liked his three-fold mantra of 'be brief, be blunt, be gone !'
:laugh1: I especially like the touch of the "be gone" at the end.
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So Father John Fullerton shut it down? I doubt it, since Father said Menzingen. I think you meant that +Fellay is no longer Superior General, not District Superior. I don't think it's solely up to a District Superior.
Ya, my bad, I should have said SG. But either way +Fellay was not in any position to authorize HRH, so Menzingen shut it down for not going through the proper chain of command. Terrible reason imo.
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Ya, my bad, I should have said SG. But either way +Fellay was not in any position to authorize HRH, so Menzingen shut it down for not going through the proper chain of command. Terrible reason imo.
In either case, I doubt that +Fellay was acting unilaterally without running it through Menzingen in the first place. And, despite the fact that he's not SG, his opinion still carries a huge amount of weight, as he is in fact a bishop while Pagliarani is just a priest. If +Fellay simply called Pagliarani and told him he wanted to give the go-ahead for the Redemptorists, it would be a done deal.
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From the French web page:
https://www.avref.fr/fichiers/FSSPX%20LIVRE%20NOIR%202019.pdf
Gooogle Translate, and edited
Around 2012, the Dominicans of Avrille did not have a bishop from SSPX to ordain deacons and priests, because they were worried about a possible Agreement with Rome on the SSPX 's side... now not a "Friend " of SSPX.
This long PDF then goes in other subjects about the FSS px. leader of the day...
I didn't included some notes about Rosa von Gutmann, RIP + 2003, who bequeathed 120 million $$$, and her castle to the Austrian District FSSPX. But guess who ended up with the money?
...multiplies societies and foundations, particularly in neighboring Liechtenstein, and devotes a significant part of his energies to the management of the fortune of his Fraternity. To our knowledge, there is no personal enrichment but +
:ΕΠΑΥ seems to use money and law as instruments of power, which is particularly alarming in a fraternity which harbors abuses within it. Combined with a near-obsession with legal security, this interest of + :ΕΠΑΥ in money power aims to enable him to rule out anyone tempted to overshadow him. Thus in 2011, Mr Kr a, acting on behalf of + :ΕΠΑΥ, threatened with trial an administrator of Ig... A..., who criticized... This is very practical for silencing annoying voices. The same year, Mr Kr a assisted + :ΕΠΑΥ and his predecessor Father F Schmdbrger in a criminal complaint against a retired Belgian priest, Fr. Schoonbroodt, for “defama tiθn” (having published articles about the links between the lawyer DresdΘis and :ΕΠΑΥ), for “incιtement to racιal hatred” (?) and for theft of ιntellectual property. Father S. ...[the f...X] are the owners”.] This even though these were public homilies from Mgr Lefebvre!
In short, money has no smell and the SSPX clearly understands the heritage of Mgr Lefebvre in not only a spiritual sense but also in a very concrete material sense. Yet another example: to a victim of pedophilia who underlines the civil responsibility of the SSPX, +:ΕΠΑΥ responds without complexes that there is a statute of limitations. These are some examples of how Βurnard combines money and law to muzzle people who bother him. Let us continue the tour of the companies and foundations of which +:ΕΠΑΥ is a stakeholder, and let us mention in particular the SARL STPI, “Société Tradition et Patrimoine Immobilier”,[Tradition and Heritage Real Estate?] based in Lausanne (Swiss commercial register number: CH-550.1.031.472-9)73 . The name says it all, and we can wonder if the role of a βιζκορ is to practice real estate speculation, especially in a region that is already among the most expensive in the world: the Lake Geneva region. Unless real estate is just merchandise? Among the other companies managed by +BF, we note in particular l'Association Martin des pauvres (sic), [the Martin Association of the Poor }based… in Zug and registered in the commercial register under number CH170.6.000.287-2; or the Hereditas company, financing company active in the Baltic countries (commercial register number: CH-170.6.000.143-4). Alongside the considerable fortune held by the SSP.X, the latter is less careful in matters of social legislation and labor law: very recently, an article by investigative journalist Jade Serrano revealed a striking contrast between on the one hand, intense activity in receiving inheritances and bequests, and on the other, suspicions of Ταχ and social frαδ (indications of slus h funds and h... work)74. 73 www.moneyhouse.ch/fr/u/stpi_societe_tradition_patrimoine_immobilier_sarl_CH-550.1.031.472-9.htm 74 www.streetpress.com/sujet/1543317741-argent-c
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So, another thought here that occurred to me besides the Redemptorists somehow incurring Menzingen's disfavor, is that this new "protocol" from Menzingen could very well be yet another condition imposed on them by Jorge. It's one thing if the SSPX has its own Society, its own religious, etc. ... and quite another if they set up traditional Catholic Orders, like Redemptorists, Dominicans, etc. Bergoglio probably told them they don't have the authority to set up these Orders and Menzingen acquiesced, probably even agreeing. "We're the SSPX, so who are we to set up a Redemptorist house of formation? That would be schismatic. We don't have that authority, being just a society for priests." This would just be another step along the lines of having Novus Ordo presiders witnessing Traditional marriages, etc.
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So, another thought here that occurred to me besides the Redemptorists somehow incurring Menzingen's disfavor, is that this new "protocol" from Menzingen could very well be yet another condition imposed on them by Jorge. It's one thing if the SSPX has its own Society, its own religious, etc. ... and quite another if they set up traditional Catholic Orders, like Redemptorists, Dominicans, etc. Bergoglio probably told them they don't have the authority to set up these orders and Menzingen acquiesced, probably even agreeing. "We're the SSPX, so who are we to set up a Redemptorist house of formation? That would be schismatic. We don't have that authority, being just a society for priests." This would just be another step along the lines of having Novus Ordo presiders witnessing Traditional marriages, etc.
This is most likely what happened, as the Prelature does not allow for any Religious Orders besides SSPX (so all would have to switch to be an SSPX, Priest, Brother or Sister) depending on the case. Traditional Dominicans, Franciscans, Benedictines, etc. not allowed to continue.
However, why now. I suspect that maybe it has to do with the upcoming consecrations of new SSPX bishops, they will not have implied or explicit permission for those consecrations unless they stop the Redemptorist from growing under the name Redemptorist. Remember, when the Redemptorist made a deal with the Vatican, they had to give up the name Redemptorists. As for the other Religious Order, since they were established before Bergoglio, they appear to be able to continue for now.
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Something seems to be brewing, and it does not seem good.
+Fellay is getting old. The other two bishops have limitations as well. Is this a waiting game for Bergoglio to die? If the SSPX gets new bishops I would bet they'd be of the conservative N.O. variety and not those they consecrate themselves. There is too much evidence pointing in the direction of cooperation with Rome for it to be otherwise. Plus, a big chunk of neo-sspx chapel attendees would not blink an eye at that.
+Fellay has painted himself in the corner, insisting that Bergoglio is pope and the conciliar church is the Catholic Church, and can't turn back now. Why? Has he been promised something from Rome, like head of the prelature? A Cardinal's hat? Who knows but it does not seem good, not at all. The worse things get in Rome, the more compromised the SSPX appears when they don't call a spade a spade.
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Notice this line "implemented a protocol for religious orders that entails us closing our novitiate for now."
So was the protocol that said the Redemptorist must close for now or was that protocol had conditions that Fr. Alphonsus could not agree to and thus he has to close for now. What about the other religious groups, did the protocol apply to them too, and are any of them closing or are they complying? What was the conditions?
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“Protocols ?”
“You betcha”
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“Protocols ?”
“You betcha”
:laugh2:
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Many prayers for dear Father Alphonsus who continues to fight a lonely fight which is typical of life for a Redemptorist. Abandonment by leadership is a story that repeats itself when forces of evil rise up. I'm also guessing the change has to do with Bergolio and SSPX leaders, which is very sad and no surprise. I will continue to support Father in whatever way I am able as we are in a fight to the finish. i have been blessed to know Father well for many years, and have had the honor numerous times of serving for him and having him hear my confessions, which for me are blessings from God.
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“Protocols ?”
“You betcha”
(https://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/images/jorge-angry-with-fist.jpg)
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Reading Father's blog, it appears he is being viciously attacked by the devil.
Within a 40 day period he
1. Lost his mother to lung cancer on Dec. 21
2. He was denied offering her a public Requiem Mass in favour of a Novus Ordo service.
3. His formation house for Redemptorist aspirants was shut down.
During this Lenten season in our charity lets offer some prayers and sacrifices for Father and all traditional priests who are being sorely tried.
https://redemptoris.org/blog
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Reading Father's blog, it appears he is being viciously attacked by the devil.
Within a 40 day period he
1. Lost his mother to lung cancer on Dec. 21
2. He was denied offering her a public Requiem Mass in favour of a Novus Ordo service.
3. His formation house for Redemptorist aspirants was shut down.
During this Lenten season in our charity lets offer some prayers and sacrifices for Father and all traditional priests who are being sorely tried.
https://redemptoris.org/blog
I will add:
4. About a month ago while in California for burial services for his mother, he was in a hospital in California for I think 4 or 5 days with cellulitis from a spider bite on his foot, I'm pretty sure the pain is not completely gone just yet. Only within the last week or so he was finally able to put a shoe on that foot.
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After we had been encouraged by Bishop Fellay to start a house of formation ad experimentum for future Redemptorist novices, Menzingen has implemented a protocol for religious orders that entails us closing our novitiate for now.
Menzingen or bishop de Galarreta (or both)?
What is the full "protocol for religious orders"? To deny the creation of new foundations? To encourage more SSPX priests, brothers, sisters?
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Nothing on Father's website since March.
Vicchio (https://www.cathinfo.com/profile/Vicchio/)...have you seen or heard from father lately?
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Menzingen or bishop de Galarreta (or both)?
What is the full "protocol for religious orders"? To deny the creation of new foundations? To encourage more SSPX priests, brothers, sisters?
I think that it has to do with the fact that +Fellay is conceding that they can't set up any more houses for Traditional pre-V2 Catholic Orders such as the Redemptorists, Dominicans, etc. ... as that would have a "schismatic" sense to it, as only the Church has authority over such Orders.
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that would have a "schismatic" sense to it, as only the Church has authority over such Orders.
++Lefebvre did have a sermon saying they're technically only private vows…
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I really hope the newSociety knows exactly the meaning and conditions and limitations that are intrinsic to "SUPPLIED JURISDICTION" ! BECAUSE OF "EMERGENCY" Situations or circuмstances, when a faithful catholic asks for a sacrament (s), then the Church supplies the jurisdiction / graces. But closing/ controlling a Redemptorist foundation ??? I would be condemned at the judgment day if I so much as encouraged, or spoke approvingly of a Schismatic person/bishop /entity.! The following is probably outdated...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Society of Saint Pius X (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X) has close links with several religious institutes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_institute), chiefly in France.
Various orders
- Brothers of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-1)
- Sisters of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_the_Priestly_Fraternity_of_Saint_Pius_X)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-2)
- Oblates of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-3)
Latin orders
Male orders
The following are associated male orders:[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-auto-4)
- Capuchins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Friars_Minor_Capuchin)-inspired Capucins de Morgon
- Dominican (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Order)-inspired Les Frères de Notre-Dame-du-Rosaire[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-5)
- Fraternity of the Transfiguration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternity_of_the_Transfiguration)
- Redemptorists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemptorists) -inspired Transalpine Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer (CSSR) in Orkney Islands[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-6) - UK and Traditional Redemptorist Missioners[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-7) in Mussey, MI - United States
- Benedictine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedictine) monks from Abbey of Our Lady of the Conception; Niterói (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niterói), Rio de Janeiro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_de_Janeiro), Brazil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil)[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-8)
- Benedictine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedictine) monks from Our Lady of Guadalupe Monastery; Silver City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_City,_New_Mexico), NM (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-9)
- Parish Cooperators of Christ the King (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_the_King), in Caussade, France
Female orders
The following are associated female orders:[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-auto-4)
- Dominican Teaching Sisters of the Holy Name of Jesus in Fanjeaux, France (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanjeaux) with schools[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-10)
- Dominican Teaching Sisters of the Holy Name of Jesus in Brignoles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brignoles) with schools[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-11)
- Dominican Teaching Sisters in Wanganui, New Zealand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whanganui)[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-12)
- Contemplative dominican sisters in Avrillé[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-13) - France
- Franciscan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscans) sisters: Les Petites Sœurs de saint François – Le Trévoux
- Sisters of Transfiguration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternity_of_the_Transfiguration)
- Baptistines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_St._John_the_Baptist): Les petites sœurs de saint Jean-Baptiste – Le Rafflay
- Carmelites (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelites): Carmel du Cœur Immaculé de Marie,[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-14) Eynesse - France
- Benedictines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedictine_Nuns): Bénédictines de Perdechat[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-15) - France
- Poor Clares (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Clares): Clarisses de Morgon[16] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-16)
- Benedictine Nuns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedictine_Nuns) in Silver City, New Mexico[17] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-17)
- Bethany Sisters in Killiney Road, Singapore[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-18)
- Disciples of the Cenacle in Velletri, Italy[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-19)
- Consoling Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus in Vigne de Narni, Italy[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-20)
- Madres Mínimas Franciscanas del Perpetuo Socorro de María - Mexico[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-21)
- Franciscan Sisters of Christ the King (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscan_Sisters_of_Christ_the_King) in Kansas City, U.S.
- The Reparation Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary[22] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-22) - India
Eastern orders
The following are associated religious orders that celebrate according to Eastern Catholic liturgies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_liturgies):[23] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-23)
- Priestly Fraternity of Saint Josaphat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_Society_of_Saint_Josaphat) at Lviv, Ukraine
- Society of St. John the Precursor of the Lord[24] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-24) at Riga, Latvia
- Greek Catholic Sisters of the Studite Order (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Studite_Monks) at Riga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riga), Latvia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvia)
- Ukrainian Basilian Sisters at Lviv, Ukraine, who were forced to leave the Basilian Order (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Basil_the_Great) in 1995, "because of their 'traditionalist' ideas"[25] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-25) and who now reside in the house where Blessed Nicholas Charnetsky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Charnetsky) died following his release from the Gulag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag). The room in which Kyr Nicholas died is now the convent's chapel.[26] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders#cite_note-26)
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Miseremini.....We hear from Father Alphonsus a few times a month via email.
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++Lefebvre did have a sermon saying they're technically only private vows…
Whatever they are canonically (and +Lefebvre wasn't wrong), one gives a schismatic "impression" by going around setting up Dominican or Redempotorist (or other) types of religious houses.
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Whatever they are canonically (and +Lefebvre wasn't wrong), one gives a schismatic "impression" by going around setting up Dominican or Redempotorist (or other) types of religious houses.
Fr. Alphonsus is not in that category tho. For years he's worked with the SSPX in all sorts of areas such as filling in as a substitute priest when they ask him to. He hears confessions Sundays or at least every other Sunday at SSPX before and during the Low Mass, gives missions for the SSPX etc. so it's not like he's some break away priest or anything.
As it says on his Amazon Wish List page: "The Traditional Redemptorist Missioners are preachers associated with the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX)."
Anyway, he is still in the process building the monastery and will have an informal blessing of it next week and an official blessing with +Fellay sometime around the end of the year after it's completed.
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From Father
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HRH Update
May 3, 2024|Monastery News
Thank you for your support, both financial and moral, through Lent and Eastertide.
We had four excellent Parish Missions, in Mount Holly, NC; Kansas City, KS; Syracuse, NY; and De Pere, WI. There was also a three-day recollection preached to the SSPX Brothers at their novitiate in Winona, MN.
The building of the monastery/retreat house is proceeding slowly. Since Easter, the ceilings and drywall have been put up, the furnaces have been installed, and the building has been connected to the electrical grid.
Although the project is still half finished, it has been decided to go ahead with the blessing of the building on Tuesday, May 7, which will be the 100th anniversary of the priestly ordination of Fr. George Kathrein, C.Ss.R.
Later in the year, when the decoration of the chapel is finished, we hope to have it blessed by the bishop.
Depending on the progress made on the building, we should be able to hold retreats here this autumn. Once the date of completion is announced, details will follow on our website.
Thank you again to all our benefactors, financial and spiritual. Your intentions are remembered in our prayers four times every day.
For new pictures of our building project go to the bottom of the page linked here, click here (https://redemptoris.org/photo-gallery)
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So it's not closing down?
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So it's not closing down?
Sounds like retreat house for now ... while they hold out hope it'll be turned into a house of formation down the road.
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Sounds like retreat house for now ... while they hold out hope it'll be turned into a house of formation down the road.
Yes, this is the hope.