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Offline Telesphorus

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  • http://gloria.tv/?media=142601

    If the link doesn't work search the keywords:

    Procès contre les Editions Saint Remi


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    SSPX attempts to stop publication of Archbishop Lefebvres sermons
    « Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 10:55:25 AM »
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  • Hmm cant access that link from work.. but why would they want to do that?


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    SSPX attempts to stop publication of Archbishop Lefebvres sermons
    « Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 08:04:07 AM »
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    « Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 02:11:05 PM »
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  • Anyone know if there is an English translation?

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    « Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 04:09:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    google translate of blog


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    « Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 04:15:01 PM »
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  • WOW!!!!.....

    LUCY!!!!!!... .you got some splainin' to do!!!!

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    SSPX attempts to stop publication of Archbishop Lefebvres sermons
    « Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 06:22:19 PM »
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  • Raoul , Raoul!!!! Quick quick come here!!


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    SSPX attempts to stop publication of Archbishop Lefebvres sermons
    « Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 06:55:42 PM »
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  • From Pope Pius IX:

     
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    Venerable Brethren, you see clearly enough how sad and full of perils is the condition of Catholics in the regions of Europe which We have mentioned. Nor are things any better or circuмstances calmer in America, where some regions are so hostile to Catholics that their governments seem to deny by their actions the Catholic faith they claim to profess. In fact, there, for the last few years, a ferocious war on the Church, its institutions and the rights of the Apostolic See has been raging.... Venerable Brothers, it is surprising that in our time such a great war is being waged against the Catholic Church. But anyone who knows the nature, desires and intentions of the sects, whether they be called masonic or bear another name, and compares them with the nature the systems and the vastness of the obstacles by which the Church has been assailed almost everywhere, cannot doubt that the present misfortune must mainly be imputed to the frauds and machinations of these sects. It is from them that the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, which gathers its troops against the Church of Christ, takes its strength. In the past Our predecessors, vigilant even from the beginning in Israel, had already denounced them to the kings and the nations, and had condemned them time and time again, and even We have not failed in this duty. If those who would have been able to avert such a deadly scourge had only had more faith in the supreme Pastors of the Church! But this scourge, winding through sinuous caverns, . . . deceiving many with astute frauds, finally has arrived at the point where it comes forth impetuously from its hiding places and triumphs as a powerful master. Since the throng of its propagandists has grown enormously, these wicked groups think that they have already become masters of the world and that they have almost reached their pre-established goal. Having sometimes obtained what they desired, and that is power, in several countries, they boldly turn the help of powers and authorities which they have secured to trying to submit the Church of God to the most cruel servitude, to undermine the foundations on which it rests, to contaminate its splendid qualities; and, moreover, to strike it with frequent blows, to shake it, to overthrow it, and, if possible, to make it disappear completely from the earth. Things being thus, Venerable Brothers, make every effort to defend the faithful which are entrusted to you against the insidious contagion of these sects and to save from perdition those who unfortunately have inscribed themselves in such sects. Make known and attack those who, whether suffering from, or planning, deception, are not afraid to affirm that these shady congregations aim only at the profit of society, at progress and mutual benefit. Explain to them often and impress deeply on their souls the Papal constitutions on this subject and teach, them that the masonic associations are anathematized by them not only in Europe but also in America and wherever they may be in the whole world.


    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9syll.htm

    Yes, even from the beginning in Israel - they were denounced by the leaders of the Church.

    Yet Bishop Fellay apparently wishes to excise such denunciations from Archbishop Lefebvre's sermons.


    Offline Telesphorus

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    SSPX attempts to stop publication of Archbishop Lefebvres sermons
    « Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 10:53:35 AM »
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  • The SSPX won in court and stopped the publication - but they are allowed to sell the book for one week.  Too bad 70 Euros (+ shipping overseas) is a bit steep for me:

    http://www.saint-remi.fr/details-catalogues.php?id=1241&PSRC=%2F

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    « Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 10:56:43 AM »
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  • I love the conspiracy theories.

    Could it be the SSPX wants control of the SSPX's own intellectual property?


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    « Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 12:28:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    I love the conspiracy theories.

    Could it be the SSPX wants control of the SSPX's own intellectual property?


    The publisher has explained what the SSPX demanded as regards the content of the sermons.

    This isn't about the SSPX getting a cut of the proceeds of the sale - this is about suppressing Archbishop Lefebvre's sermons.  Whatever their "rights" - there's no possible good motive for this - it stinks.

    The SSPX may claim to "own" Archbishop Lefebvre's sermons.  I suppose they would claim to own Catholicism and the Bible if they could get away with it.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 12:29:33 PM »
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    « Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 02:24:19 PM »
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    This isn't about the SSPX getting a cut of the proceeds of the sale - this is about suppressing Archbishop Lefebvre's sermons.


    And how do you know this?  The link provided is incoherent.  Please demonstrate the justification for this statement.  

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    SSPX attempts to stop publication of Archbishop Lefebvres sermons
    « Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 02:28:13 PM »
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  • English translation

    The above link shows what the publisher is claiming.