Author Topic: SSG School (Read 20163 times)

Degrelle · « **Reply #25 on:** May 20, 2022, 12:38:10 PM »

Quote from: Lover of Truth on May 20, 2022, 12:36:36 PM

Really? Wow! Now I need to know if there are still issues. Is it safe to send your children there?

Unfortunately I cannot speak to that, as I don't know anyone who has children currently in the school and I live in Canada.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #26 on:** May 20, 2022, 12:38:35 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on May 16, 2022, 06:52:55 PM

So did Lotarski resign(?) recently after the death of Bishop Dolan? If so, the timing suggests that he no longer has protection from Bishop Dolan.

I guessed that long ago. There would be no reason to keep him otherwise. But much reason to let him go. They kick other people out easy enough.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #27 on:** May 20, 2022, 01:38:21 PM »

I got berated by some pant-wearing females over the issue. I simply asked “Does anyone know who the principal is at Saint Gertrude the Great now? Would you recommend that school to parents with young children? The questions are for anyone with first-hand knowledge. Thank you very much!”

See the comments in the below thread:

https://novusordowatch.org/2022/05/francis-message-to-lgbtq-catholics/#disqus_thread

Remember what happened in the 50’s and 60’s when the clergy was not held accountable?

A simple answer to the question would have sufficed. But no, the clergy that wreck souls are the good guys. People with legitimate and important questions are bad for even asking. Sede-land can be a scary place. Sends people back to the NO or worse. An accurate response could have even helped SSG if there is improvement, since two of the three main characters in that scandal which was ongoing are gone. Anyone who did not know anything about the situation could not have gleaned any information from that comment. It was quite innocuous. I think they responded in such a way because I inadvertently offended them about pant-wearing when I just assumed them to be traditional Catholics since they were SV. So that was a kind of getchyaback type of thing. Plus, one of them seems to think Trump and Biden would be equally harmful to the country and does not like my views on that.

But on the topic, I now will share the following points:

I wasn't sure why it was bad to ask if it is an ongoing problem. Scandal is a terrible sin, especially for children. And families. Souls are involved and people like to pretend it didn't happen, smooth it over, or act like there is still no problem. Daring to ask about is considered terrible. I feel like I'm missing something. The traditional clergy is all we have, if we don't hold them accountable what will be left? I'm perfectly fine being the "bad guy" if it discourages future clergy from pulling the same stunt. I’m aware of people who did not have children who left SSG on principal alone. There was an utter lack of accountability at SSG.

The "stars" that left SSPX seem to have more baggage than CMRI (I’ve been on record saying if I had a vote for pope, it would be bishop Pivarunas.) You can’t argue with CMRI's position on the liturgy and and I certainly hold the pure-sv position over the novel Material/Formal position. I tend to like the views of the former SSPXers more (means nothing in the grand scheme of things), but they tend to be more cultish quite frankly. I think the original 9 and even the three that left after that, apart from those in groups tend to be very good, however. Ahern, Collins, and I think McMahon is good despite his past. But the rest leave you wondering. My wife has encountered problems with the SSPX. I learned first-hand about what went on with the Society of Saint John. Our experience with SSPV was atrocious. How do you explain it?

It is hard to respect people who value agendas more than truth (we must not warn people with children about the danger to their souls if it means anything negative about clergy). The frustration with being ignored by clergy over hugely important issues, the proper route for solving things not being acknowledged led people to take another path. It leaves people scandalized and bitter. I know people were very hurt over any number of things pertaining to that dynamic duo. I don't doubt there was good about them. They were certainly important historical figures. But in that position, you have to be extra careful about public scandal. I think every person in existence falls into one of two categories. They are either good people who sometimes have done or do bad things. Or bad people who sometimes do good things. We have no way of knowing for sure, who is who, unless it is revealed with undeniable proof. If I feel like I do, imagine how people feel that are not familiar with the faith and go by how they are treated or what they see around them. When clergy lead souls to hell, which results in their reputation getting ruined for accurate reasons, perhaps that's good? Accountability indeed is a good thing. And someone has to do it. There is no visible authority they have to answer to, and that has proven to be a bad thing. A Pope is necessary for so many reasons!

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #28 on:** May 20, 2022, 02:19:28 PM »

I'll go on record to say I'm not aware that CMRI has any baggage at all. That is, I am not aware of any bad characters, or ill-treatment of their parishioners, seminarians or students.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #29 on:** May 20, 2022, 09:31:32 PM »

Quote from: Lover of Truth on May 20, 2022, 02:19:28 PM

I'll go on record to say I'm not aware that CMRI has any baggage at all.

While there was a significant house-cleaning and notable improvement, the CMRI has baggage by the truckload. See Bp. Schuckardt.

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