All those saints and that catechism said that Baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation but contradicted themselves on this point.
This shows they are not infallible.
Don't try to evade the question: has the Catechism and all those saints been teaching soul-damning heresy for centuries to all the flock?
The Council of Trent did not say that.
"And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected without the laver of regeneration or the desire thereof
, as it is written: ‘Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.’ [John 3:5]"
The original latin is: "…lavacro regenerationis aut eius voto
A classic Latin textbook tells us that ‘votum’ means a “vow; prayer, desire” (Latin Grammar by Scanlon & Scanlon, A.M., as originally published by B. Herder Book Co. in 1944 at St. Louis, Missouri. Later republished by TAN Books & Publishers in 1976 & 1982 in Rockford, Illinois. Quote found on p.328.)
"Desire" is in last place in this definition, after ‘vow’ and ‘prayer’. Also see how ‘vow’ is first and followed by a semicolon. The order of the list tells us ‘vow’ is most likely to be a correct rendering, the semicolon that ‘vow’ is almost always the best translation.
The Ordinary Magisterium is infallible. Popes are not infallible all the time. Did you know that?
Did you know that just because something "is not infallible" you are still not free to reject it much less call it heretical?
Also, so what if I use the quotes from the Dimond Brothers site.
You don't merely "post quotes" from their site: you use their very own arguments and you preach their very own errors
. If you can't see that, "you're in a spiritual fog", as they like to say.
They post Dogmas and where to find them. Their material is like a handy tool against satan, and it's all in one site so I don't have to look around.
Yeah and then they interpret them by themselves and come up with their own "understanding" of dogmas and then presume to pontificate and bind the whole world to their new-found understandings under pain of damnation.
You obviously don't get what I'm telling you. I didn't say that you said the miracles didn't happen. I said that you explain them away. You totally distort the significance and meaning of why those miracles happened.
It's amusing (almost) how you just add your BOD nonsense to explain the miracles. If anything those miracles happened because the individuals had perfect contrition, not because they lacked it.
Think about it. If these pagans didn't have perfect contrition, why would God go to those lengths to save them? What would make them different from the other pagans that weren't miraculously baptized?
The only nonsense here is your own explanation.
How do you
know they all had perfect contrition? Where you there when all that happened?
This is very interesting. If you will notice, you have just denied dogma and are anathematized by the Catholic Church.
Pope Paul III, The Council of Trent, Can. 2 on the Sacrament of Baptism, Sess. 7, 1547, ex cathedra: “If anyone shall say that real and natural water is not necessary for baptism, and on that account those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ: ‘Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit’ [John 3:5], are distorted into some sort of metaphor: let him be anathema.”
If you do not take it literally, which you said you don't, then you are anathematized.
By the way, I don't know ANY protestants who take John 3:5 literally. Really?
I don't really need to say anything else to you.
The only anathematized heretical schismatic is yourself
According to your ramblings, which are only the ramblings of the Dimond boys, you have just "anathematized" all the Saints and Popes that taught BOD.
In fact, you have just "anathematized" the Catholic Church by the Catholic Church Herself, for letting this "heresy" be taught everywhere and by so many Saints.
Do you realize that?
Of course you don't. Your mind is seared and will not reason.
And the only thing that is "very interesting", is how you didn't address what i said here:
<<This is the case: NO ONE in the history of the Church has ever called BOD/BOB heretical, or a heresy, and much less the ones who have taught them and believe in them, heretics.
Can you quote any Saint or any Catholic of repute saying that BOD/BOB are heretical?
Of course not. It's only been 2 self-professed "monks" born in the 70's that have made such a statement.
Was the Church in darkness for centuries until 2 self-made "monks" born in the 70's came along with their torches to the rescue?>>
Answer this: are you in 100% "agreement" with the Dimonds?