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Offline MyrnaM

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So much is happening and now this!
« on: March 13, 2011, 07:05:55 PM »
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  • Has anyone posted this yet, if so, I apologize for the duplicate of information.

    http://uogcc.org.ua/en/actual/article/?article=4211

       Notification to the Pope
     

    Your Holiness,

    the Bishops’ Synod of the UOGCC has elaborated a draft pastoral letter for You. For Your part, You only need to accept it as Your own, or modify it if necessary. We understand Your difficult situation. We pray for You, but we are deeply hurt by Your decision to beatify the apostate Pope John Paul II and to celebrate the tragic anniversary of the meeting in Assisi which has caused total decay of the Church. With great pain we have to inform You that unless You cancel beatification of John Paul II, our Synod will be obliged before the whole Church to promulgate Your apostasy and consequently Your self-excommunication from the Church, as well as excommunication of Pope John Paul II.

     

    We pray for You, that You may make a gesture of repentance and set an example to the whole Church. Without repentance the Church is no Church and without repentance no one can be saved, neither we nor You, Your Holiness!

    The gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church, but if You allow them to prevail against You, You will no longer belong to the Church. We beseech You: make a concrete step of faith. There is still time!

     

            Praying for You,

                   Bishops of the Ukrainian orthodox Greek-Catholic Church

                                                       + Elias OSBMr

                                                       + Samuel OSBMr

                                                       + Markian OSBMr

                                                       + Methodius OSBMr

     

                                                                                             Lvov (Ukraine), 3rd March 2011

    Cc:

    - Representatives of Christian Churches

    - Presidents of EU member states

     

     

    Address: Synod of the UOGCC, 3 Sosnova St., Lvov - Bryukhovychi, 79491, Ukraine

    www.uogcc.org.ua, www.community.org.ua; pidhirci.community@gmail.com

     



    Offline gladius_veritatis

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    So much is happening and now this!
    « Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 07:46:02 PM »
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  • God reward them for their faith and fortitude.

    Note: These men are NOT "untrained", psychological "basket cases."  They simply see that 2+2=4 and have the simplicity and the stones to say so.
    + Vincit veritas +


    Offline trad123

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    « Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 09:51:18 PM »
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  • Put a smile on my face, thank you for posting this.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 07:54:07 AM »
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  • Myrna,
    This was sent to me in e-mail.  I haven't verified, but it seems that many are quite unhappy.

    Italian Catholic Intellectuals Beg Benedict XVI To “Flee the Spirit of Assisi”
    1-22-2011
    On January 11, Catholic Italian journalists and academics caused to appear in Il Foglio a supplication to the Pope, begging him not to go to Assisi next October. Here are some of the most significant extracts.
    Most Holy Father,
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    (…) We take the liberty of writing you after having learned, precisely during the massacre of the Coptic Christians [Ed. in Egypt, December 31, 2010], your intention of convening in Assisi, in October, a large inter-religious assembly, 25 years after “Assisi 1986”.

    We all remember this event that took place so long ago. An event like few others in the media, that, independently of the intentions and declarations of he [those] who convened it, had an undeniable repercussion, relaunching in the Catholic world indifference and religious relativism.
     
    It is this event that caused to take effect among the Christian people the idea that the secular teaching of the Church, “one, holy, Catholic and apostolic”, concerning the unique character of the Savior, was in some way to be banished to the archives.
     
    We all remember the representatives of all the religions in a Catholic sanctuary, the church of Santa Maria degli Angeli, lined up with olive branches in hand: as if to signify that peace does not come through Christ but, indistinctly, through all the founders of any credo whatsoever (Mohammed, Buddha, Confucius, Kali, Christ…)
    We remember the prayer of the Muslims in Assisi, the city of a saint who had made the conversion of the Muslims one of his objectives. We remember the prayer of the animists, their invocation to the spirits of the elements, and of other believers or representatives of atheistic religions, such as Jainism.
    The effect of this “praying together”, whatever its goal may be, like it or not, is to make many believe that all were praying to “the same God”, only with different names.
    On the contrary, the Scriptures are clear: “Thou shalt not have false gods before me” (First Commandment), “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no man cometh to the Father but by me” (John 14:6)

    Those who write here in no way contest a dialogue with each and every person, whatever his religion may be.
     
    We live in the world, and every day we speak, discuss, love, even those who are not Christian, because they are atheists, indifferent, or of other religions. But that does not keep us from believing that God came down to earth, and let Himself be killed to teach us, precisely, the Way, the Truth, and not just one of many possible ways and truths. Christ is, for us Christians, the Savior; the only Savior of the world.
     
    We recall with consternation, going back 25 years, the chickens beheaded on the altar of St. Clare according to tribal rituals and a statue of Buddha placed on the altar in the church of St. Peter, above the relics of the martyr Vittorino, killed in 400 AD to bear witness to his faith.
     
    We remember the Catholic priests at the initiation rites of other religions: a horrible scene, for, if it is “ridiculous” to baptize into the Catholic faith an adult who does not believe, just as absurd is it for a priest to undergo a ritual of which he recognizes neither the validity nor the utility. By doing this, one ends up just spreading one idea: that rites, all rites, are nothing but empty human gestures. That all the conceptions of the divine are of equal value. That all moralities, that emanate from all religions, are interchangeable. That is the “spirit of Assisi”, upon which the media and the most relativist milieus of the Church have elaborated, sowing confusion. It seemed to us foreign to the Gospel and to the Church of Christ that had never, in two thousand years, chosen to do such a thing. We would have liked to rewrite these ironic observations of a French journalist:
     
    In the presence of so many gods, one will believe more easily that they are all equal than that there is only one that is true. The scornful Parisian will imitate that skeptical collector, whose friend had just made an idol fall from a table: “Ah, unhappy one, that may have been the true God”.
    We therefore find comfort for our perplexities in the many declarations of the Popes who have always condemned such a “dialogue”. Indeed, a congress of all religions has already been organized in Chicago in 1893 and in Paris in 1900. But Pope Leo XIII intervened to forbid all Catholics to participate.
     
    The same attitude was that of Pius XI, the Pope who condemned Nazi atheism and Communist atheism, but deplored at the same time the attempt to unite people in the name of a vague and indistinct sentiment, without religion, without Christ.
     
    Pius XI wrote thus in Mortalium Animos (Epiphany 1928) concerning ecumenical encounters:
     
    We see some men, convinced that it is very rare to meet men deprived of all religious sense, nourish the hope that it might be possible to lead peoples without difficulty, in spite of their religious differences, to a fraternal agreement on the profession of certain doctrines considered as a common foundation of spiritual life. That is why they begin to hold congresses, reunions, conferences, frequented by an appreciably large audience, and, to their discussions, they invite all men indistinctly, infidels of all kinds along with the faithful of Christ and even those who, unfortunately, have separated themselves from Christ or who, with bitterness and obstinacy, deny the divinity of His nature and of His mission.
     
    Such undertakings cannot, in any way, be approved by Catholics, since they are based on the erroneous opinion that all religions are more or less good and praiseworthy, in the sense that all equally, although in different ways, manifest and signify the natural and innate sentiment that carries us towards God and pushes us to recognize with respect His power. In truth, the partisans of this theory fall into a complete error, but what is more, in perverting the notion of the true religion, they repudiate it, and they fall step by step into naturalism and atheism.
     
    In retrospect, we can say that Pope Pius XI was right, even on the level of the simple opportunity: in reality, what has been the effect of “Assisi 1986”, in spite of the just declarations of Pope John Paul II, aimed at forestalling such an interpretation?
     
    What is the message relaunched by the organizers, the media, and even the many modernist clerics desirous of overturning the tradition of the Church? What came across to many Christians, through the images, which are always the most evocative, and through the newspapers and television, is very clear:religious relativism, which is the equivalent of atheism.
     
    If all pray “together”, many have concluded, then all religions are “equal”, but if this is the case, that means that none of them is true. At this time, you, cardinal and prefect of the Congregation of the Faith, with Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, and several others, were among those who expressed serious doubts. For this reason, in the following years, you have never participated in the replicas proposed each year by the Community of Sant’Egidio. (…)
     
    These past years you have taught, without always being understood, even by Catholics, that dialogue has its place, and can take place, not between different theologies, but between different cultures, and not between different religions, but between men, in the light of that which distinguishes us all: human reason.
     
    Without recreating the ancient pagan Pantheon; without the integrity of the faith being compromised by a love for theological compromise; without Revelation, that is not our own, being modified by men and theologians in the aim of reconciling the irreconcilable; without placing Christ, “sign of contradiction”, on the same level as Buddha or Confucius, who, besides, never said that they were God.
     
    This is why we are here to expose to you our fears. We fear that, whatever you may say, television, the newspapers, and many Catholics will interpret it in the light of this past and of the present indifferentism; we fear that, whatever you may claim, the event will be read as a continuation of the manipulation of the figure of St. Francis, transformed by today’s ecumenists into an pacifist, a syncretist without faith. It is already the case…
     
    We are afraid that whatever you may say to clarify things more, the simple faithful, of whose number we are, everywhere in the world will see but one fact (and that is all that will be shown, for example, on television): the Vicar of Christ not only speaking, debating, dialoguing with the representatives of other religions, but also praying with them. As if the manner and the end of prayer were indifferent.
     
    And many will think mistakenly that the Church has henceforth capitulated, and recognized, in the line of the New Age way of thinking, that to pray to Christ, Allah, Buddha, or Manitou is the same thing. That Animist and Islamic polygamy, Hindu castes or the polytheistic Animist spiritualism, can go hand-in-hand with Christian monogamy, the law of love and pardon of the One and Triune God. (…)

     
    Most Holy Father, we believe that with a new “Assisi 1986”, no Christian in the Orient will be saved: nor in Communist China, nor in North Korea or Pakistan or Iraq… on the contrary, many faithful will not understand why in these countries, people still die martyrs for not renouncing their encounter not with just any religion, but with Christ. Just as the Apostles died.
     
    In the face of persecution, there exist political, diplomatic means, personal dialogues between States: may they all take place, and as well as possible. With Your love and Your desire for peace for all men.
     
    But without giving those who wish to sow confusion and to augment religious relativism—antechamber of all relativisms—, an opportunity, for the media included, as appetizing as a second edition of “Assisi 1986”.
     
    With our filial devotion,
     
    Francis Agnoli, Lorenzo Bertocchi, Roberto de Mattei, Corrado Gnerre, Alessandro Gnocchi, Camillo Langone, Mario Palmaro
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    « Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 01:00:51 PM »
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  • This is great- Lets pray that Benedict VI and those around him get the message.

    To the Ukrainian orthodox Greek-Catholic Church:  :applause:

    Strength and blessings  

    JMJ


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    « Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 07:32:13 PM »
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  • Do all of you recall after the last Assisi meeting?  There was a large earthquake in the region, and  part of the celining of the church of St Francis , where this horrible interfaith service was held,  collapsed!

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    « Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 08:42:23 PM »
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  • Benedict XVI(16) -- :whistleblower:anti-pope.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 07:48:34 AM »
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  • Quote from: Emerentiana
    Do all of you recall after the last Assisi meeting?  There was a large earthquake in the region, and  part of the celining of the church of St Francis , where this horrible interfaith service was held,  collapsed!


    Was that right after the service? Or much later?

    May Assisi 3 be stopped and may Benedict XVI come to repentance.


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    « Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 07:48:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: Exilenomore
    Quote from: Emerentiana
    Do all of you recall after the last Assisi meeting?  There was a large earthquake in the region, and  part of the celining of the church of St Francis , where this horrible interfaith service was held,  collapsed!


    Was that right after the service? Or much later?

    May Assisi 3 be stopped and may Benedict XVI come to repentance.


    It as later.  

     

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