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Offline Charlemagne

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So, here it is...
« on: July 05, 2013, 06:17:57 PM »
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    Woman Heard "Be Not Afraid" Before Cure Sealing John Paul II's Sainthood

    By Isabella Cota

    SAN JOSE (Reuters) - Suffering a potentially fatal swelling in the brain, Costa Rican grandmother Floribeth Mora says a voice spoke to her through a photograph of the late Pope John Paul II, miraculously curing her and sealing the late pontiff's sainthood.

    The Vatican said on Friday Pope Francis had approved Mora's cure as the requisite second miracle for the sainthood of John Paul II, who led the Roman Catholic Church from 1978 to 2005.

    Mora says she was diagnosed with an aneurysm in a cerebral artery on April 14, 2011 and sent home from the hospital with the warning she could be dead within a month, although the surgeon who made the diagnosis denies he gave such a warning.

    According to Mora, she drifted off to sleep in the early hours of May 1, 2011 after watching a mass on television to mark the beatification of John Paul II, who died in 2005.

    She says she prayed to the late pope to heal her, and when she awoke, her eyes fell on a picture of him she had on top of the television.

    "I woke up when I heard a voice that said 'get up,'" Mora, now 50, said on Friday at the Roman Catholic Church's administrative offices in San Jose, showing the clipping. "I was alone in my room, I only had this clipping that was published around those dates to commemorate John Paul II's papacy."

    "I had it in front of me and I heard a voice again that said 'get up' and I looked at his photo and saw his open arms and I heard a voice that said 'be not afraid' and I said 'Yes Lord,'" she added between tears, a golden rosary hanging around her neck.

    "I went to my husband and he asked me what I was doing and I just said 'I feel fine, I feel fine, I feel fine.'"

    In a written statement distributed by the Church, Mora said she had been warned that she likely only had a short time to live.

    "I was even warned that it would not be more than a month," she said.

    The neurosurgeon who admitted and diagnosed Mora, however, denies he gave her a month to live. Alejandro Vargas says he forecast only a 2 percent chance Mora could bleed into her brain again within a year of her diagnosis, possibly killing her.

    "She was sent home with medication that would reduce her blood pressure and was advised to improve her diet so as not to raise her cholesterol levels and thus decrease the chance of her having a second bleeding episode. She was sedated because the headaches were too sharp," he told Reuters. "We didn't send her home to be sedated and wait until she died in her sleep."

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    However, Vargas cannot explain how Mora's aneurysm disappeared.

    "What we found remarkable, unbelievable really, was that by November there was absolutely no trace in her brain that she ever had an aneurysm," he said. "I had never seen this in my career."

    Before he was beatified, the late John Paul had already been credited with asking God to cure a French nun of Parkinson's disease, the same malady he himself had suffered from.

    Mora lives in a small house in the eastern province of Cartago, around 14 miles southeast of the capital, San Jose, with her husband, Carlos Arce, and their youngest child.

    On the doorstep of their small, tidy house, she has erected a shrine to John Paul II.

    A large printed image of the first Polish pope is decorated with colorful plastic flowers and Christmas lights. Resting on the pope's portrait is a piece of paper confirming the diagnosis of her aneurysm.

    Not everyone accepts her accounts as a miracle, her husband said.

    "We've faced a lot of non-believers these last two years," he said.

    A few days ago, their youngest son showed his mother some posts on Facebook from people who didn't believe that what happened to her was an act of God.

    "It's been very hard on her, those messages did nothing but make her cry," Arce said.

    SOURCE: http://news.yahoo.com/woman-heard-not-afraid-miracle-made-pope-saint-193537437.html
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 08:13:31 PM »
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  • I wonder if this image will be used on any of his "holy" cards?


    Offline Charlemagne

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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 08:53:11 PM »
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  • I'd go with this:



    or this:



    or this:



    or maybe this:


    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 11:29:13 PM »
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    She could have saved herself a lot of trouble and just had cow
    dung smeared on her forehead (aneurysm) in the name of the
    Hindu god Shiva, while invoking the name of JPII, who did that
    too -- you know, in commemoration of his 'holy' ecuмenism.  

    But then, would it have made the headlines?  Maybe in India.



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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #5 on: July 05, 2013, 11:46:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: sspxbvm
    I wonder if this image will be used on any of his "holy" cards?


    He looks so much like my babcia (my Polish grandmother)!

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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 11:57:35 PM »
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  • "For so strong is the appeal of pleasure that it can bring about a prolongation of ignorance with a resulting facility for sin, or a perversion of conscience leading to self-deception."
                                  Tertullian


    http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/tertullian_spectacles.htm  

    Offline Stella

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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #7 on: July 06, 2013, 06:02:36 PM »
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  • When first reading this, I seriously thought the woman heard this:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/deKnKNFXSVQ[/youtube]


    Be Not Afraid by Bob Dufford and the Saint Louis Jesuits at a Catholic Mass in Florida. Vocal Quartet, Piano, String Quartet, Saxophone, Drums. Recorded on a pocket digital recorder.

     :jester:

    Mother of God, pray for us sinners.


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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #8 on: July 06, 2013, 06:52:09 PM »
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    Don't laugh, Stella, but I thought the same thing - only in
    my version it was without the drums, saxophone, piano and
    strings.  

    The drum set and alto sax are really unnecessary.  



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    Offline RomanCatholic1953

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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #9 on: July 06, 2013, 08:11:25 PM »
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  • This needs investigation of the Devil's Advocate that no longer exists
    in the canonization process.

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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2013, 12:42:49 AM »
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    What we need is a saint who would be the devil's advocate.

    Like St. Patrick, for example.  He would walk in there and
    throw a pile of wood in the middle of the room, and toss a
    match into it and it would flame up to look just like a statue
    of JPII, kind of like the picture there, but even better.  

    The bright flames would move in slow motion and there
    would be very little smoke, if any at all, so as not to start
    the fire sprinklers or alarms.  The fire would damage not
    the building, but only the evil egos in the room.

    You'd be able to see his face and hands, and he would be
    writhing in pain and screaming silently, like all the children
    whose sɛҳuąƖ abuse JPII ignored to his peril.  

    That would put a damper on the progress of this nonsense,
    lest a more dramatic display would ensue, one that does do
    some damage to the building.  



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    So, here it is...
    « Reply #11 on: July 07, 2013, 01:07:43 AM »
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  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an earthquake in Assisi right around the time of one of JPII's syncretist shindigs? I could see something like that happening in Rome.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine