Author Topic: Sister Lucy attended the Novus Ordo Mass for decades (Read 27659 times)

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #65 on:** October 14, 2014, 12:21:02 PM »

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That is a false temple. The real Temple spoken about in the Scriptures, according to Catholic and Orthodox prophesy, is the Holy Tabernacle which houses the true Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ. The anti-Christ may also put himself in a false temple in Jerusalem, but the real defilement of what is Holy will occur in the real Temple of God - the New Arc of the New Covenant - which is, indeed, the Holy Tabernacle. The Church has always eschewed the coming "rebuilt temple" in Jerusalem. It will not have much meaning except to the deceived zionist "christians" and Christ-hating jews.

In what way has the Church "always eschewed the coming "rebuilt temple" in Jerusalem"?

Meaning as a "temple", Catholics should pay no mind to it because it will be a false temple used to mislead others. I'm not denying it will be used by the anti-Christ, in fact, there has been much talk by the perfidious jews to get started on rebuilding it very soon. However, the Abomination of Desolation will occur in the real Temple - the Holy Tabernacle. The Church has always taught that the New Arc of the New Covenant is the Temple, hence the Holy Tabernacle.

ggreg · « **Reply #66 on:** October 14, 2014, 12:59:35 PM »

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Why does everyone say the secret was to be revealed in 1960?

In the 1950's we were waiting for it because we'd always been told the secret was to be revealed NO LATER THAN 1960.

It's written on the envelope. It was filmed in Cardinal Bertone's hand and a still image made. You can read the writing for yourself.

Miseremini · « **Reply #67 on:** October 17, 2014, 02:43:58 PM »

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The convent records show Lucia Santos from Fatima died May 31, 1949. If this is true, she never attended the Novus Ordo.
Also she did not have to be alive to witness the 3rd secret being revealed. Most saints never saw the result of their work.

Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with the date that Sister Lucy made her profession as a Discalced Carmelite?

I found the following on the EWTN website.
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In 1946, seeking a more contemplative life, Lucia entered the Carmelite convent of St. Teresa in Coimbra, where she made her profession as a Discalced Carmelite on May 31, 1949. She took the name Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart.

https://www.ewtn.com/fatima/children/lucia.htm

Years ago you could go to the convent website and though written in Portugese you could see the death records for all the nuns. At the time it was all over the net that #265 was Sister Lucy. It gave here birth, town born, date of entry into the convent and her death. Each one was exactly as could be verified in any book on Fatima. Withing a year this site was taken down. I do remember printing the sheet that contained her record ( I just have to find it now.) I believe Tradition in Action mentions this site also.

EWTN is not reliable on tradition. HOWEVER for arguments sake lets say that's true.
Now wouldn't that be the perfect time to introduce a fake Sister Lucy. Think about it. No one at the new convent would know her, what she looks like or have any personal knowledge of her. They'd take her at face value. They couldn't have done that at her old convent.

So you have an actual picture of it! I saw it once, too, and it was gone. So glad someone captured it. :jumping2: Oboyoboyoboy! I wanna see! :jumping2:

Parentsfortruth....here it is just for you ! I couldn't get it to copy so here it is from Tradition In Action. Look at Reference #265. Hard copy for future reference.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/WebSources/B_741_LucyDeath.png

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #68 on:** October 17, 2014, 03:00:22 PM »

Lucia Santos died on May 31, 1949.

And Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart was born on May 31, 1949.

They are the same person. But that was the practice pre Vatican II, to announce the death of the person to the world and their birth as a professed religious.

Was that the pre-VII practice? I'm just guessing. Also, I can't read the docuмent, it's too small.

Miseremini · « **Reply #69 on:** October 17, 2014, 03:25:04 PM »

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The convent records show Lucia Santos from Fatima died May 31, 1949. If this is true, she never attended the Novus Ordo.
Also she did not have to be alive to witness the 3rd secret being revealed. Most saints never saw the result of their work.

Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with the date that Sister Lucy made her profession as a Discalced Carmelite?

I found the following on the EWTN website.
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In 1946, seeking a more contemplative life, Lucia entered the Carmelite convent of St. Teresa in Coimbra, where she made her profession as a Discalced Carmelite on May 31, 1949. She took the name Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart.

https://www.ewtn.com/fatima/children/lucia.htm

Years ago you could go to the convent website and though written in Portugese you could see the death records for all the nuns. At the time it was all over the net that #265 was Sister Lucy. It gave here birth, town born, date of entry into the convent and her death. Each one was exactly as could be verified in any book on Fatima. Withing a year this site was taken down. I do remember printing the sheet that contained her record ( I just have to find it now.) I believe Tradition in Action mentions this site also.

EWTN is not reliable on tradition. HOWEVER for arguments sake lets say that's true.
Now wouldn't that be the perfect time to introduce a fake Sister Lucy. Think about it. No one at the new convent would know her, what she looks like or have any personal knowledge of her. They'd take her at face value. They couldn't have done that at her old convent.

So you have an actual picture of it! I saw it once, too, and it was gone. So glad someone captured it. :jumping2: Oboyoboyoboy! I wanna see! :jumping2:

Parentsfortruth....here it is just for you ! I couldn't get it to copy so here it is from Tradition In Action. Look at Reference #265. Hard copy for future reference.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/WebSources/B_741_LucyDeath.png

On this docuмent, #265 is entered in Feb. 2005, the month that the Lucia the world knew died. HOWEVER her death is stated as 1949.
TIA posted this docuмent and shortly thereafter access to the Carmelite records was removed.
Why didn't they just change the date to 2005 instead of removing all access?
Was it perhaps that someone refused to falsify the actual event?

http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/WebSources/B_741_LucyDeath.png