Author Topic: Sister Lucy attended the Novus Ordo Mass for decades (Read 27177 times)

Miseremini · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2014, 05:50:30 PM »

The convent records show Lucia Santos from Fatima died May 31, 1949. If this is true, she never attended the Novus Ordo.
Also she did not have to be alive to witness the 3rd secret being revealed. Most saints never saw the result of their work.

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2014, 06:45:02 PM »

PerEvangelicaDicta said,

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It's one or the other, isn't it?
Either she was fake (and the heart of Roman freemasons is black as can be, and capable of anything), or - going by your initial statement a.c. - something is desperately wrong. I fear we will never know until all is revealed.
In the meantime, the fruits of Fatima are good and holy vs., for example, Medjugorje, wouldn't you say?

You've summed up my dilemma. Either a fake Sister Lucy attended the Novus Ordo Mass for all those years in a Novus Ordo convent, and never once spoke out against Vatican II, or something is desperately wrong with Fatima.

Meanwhile, what exactly are the fruits of Fatima? To me, they seem to amount to little more than an endless fretting over the Consecration of Russia and the period of peace that is supposed to follow. Didn't the real Sister Lucy quote Our Lady as saying, in the Second Secret, that,

"... In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."

Matto said,

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I think it is more ludicrous that Sister Lucy would attend the Novus Ordo than to think she was replaced by an imposter.

How about if the real Sister Lucy was deceived? What if Fatima is a deception, a decoy, intended to keep Catholics, particularly Traditionalists, distracted from what's really going on - which is the rise of the Antichrist? After all, there have been 'miracles of the sun' reported at Medjugurje. There was also a 'miracle of the sun' reported in 2013 in the Philipinnes on 'Divine Mercy' Sunday. What if Vatican II is actually the 'revolt' that St Paul refers to in 2Thessalonians 2:3?

Miseremini said,

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The convent records show Lucia Santos from Fatima died May 31, 1949. If this is true, she never attended the Novus Ordo.
Also she did not have to be alive to witness the 3rd secret being revealed. Most saints never saw the result of their work.

Do you have a source for this? Can this be proved?

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2014, 06:52:14 PM »

Miseremini said,

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The convent records show Lucia Santos from Fatima died May 31, 1949. If this is true, she never attended the Novus Ordo.
Also she did not have to be alive to witness the 3rd secret being revealed. Most saints never saw the result of their work.

Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with the date that Sister Lucy made her profession as a Discalced Carmelite?

I found the following on the EWTN website.

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In 1946, seeking a more contemplative life, Lucia entered the Carmelite convent of St. Teresa in Coimbra, where she made her profession as a Discalced Carmelite on May 31, 1949. She took the name Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart.

https://www.ewtn.com/fatima/children/lucia.htm

ggreg · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2014, 06:52:20 PM »

I clearly remember a video of sister lucy receiving communion from John Paul 2, standing and on the tongue, and then immediately grabbing his hand and arm in some sort of swooning celebrity hugging moment.

Struck me as very odd at the time, since it was an inappropriate thing to do, given she has just received Our Lord, or, at least, thought she did.

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2014, 07:05:06 PM »

Here is Sister Lucy at the beatification of Jacinta and Francisco in 2000.

Fast forward to 12.04 and you will see her meeting JPII.