MyrnaM said,
Dear awkward, if you don't believe in Fatima, that is your choice, most here do believe in the message of Fatima and it does have Church approval, although the apparition was never declared dogma. Yet, the message of Fatima is Biblical. Penance, amendment of life, and prayer, is that what you object too?
Many of the apostles did not agree about things, read the book of Acts. Things that were not dogma, yet they all served God, with the exception of Judas, but then he was replaced. Proving no one is indispensable.
What difference does it really make, when Sister Lucy died, she, Sister Lucy has gone to her eternity, she has been judged and rewarded, so why are you even here putting doubt in the minds of those who are trying to live their Faith by obeying the message of Fatima?
What is your real point? I wonder!
How could I object to the Catholic parts of the Fatima message? Why would you imply that I would? And is your reference to Judas meant to suggest something about me? What is
your real point, I wonder!
Did Catholics in 1917 need a 'miracle of the sun' to remind them of the need for penance, amendment of life and prayer? Perhaps they did. Do Catholics still need this 'miracle' to remind them of this? Perhaps they do. If so, then fine. The Catholic parts of the Fatima message are not the issue here.
The problem is that most Catholics today have succuмbed to Vatican II, despite the Fatima message. And judging by appearances, so did Sister Lucy, who announced the 'miracle of the sun'. I find that perplexing to say the least. What's more, many more Catholics have abandoned the Faith altogether, again despite the Fatima message.
But surely the main point of the Fatima message is not the Catholic part. It is the Secret, particularly parts two and three. According to Sister Lucy, Our Lady said in part two:
..... In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.
Do you believe this is going to happen? Many Traditionalists do - I've met them. How many hours, days, months, years have Traditionalists spent anticipating the consecration of Russia, praying for it, expecting it to happen only to be disappointed yet again? How many conferences have been held, apostolates been formed, articles been written, all on the subject of whether or not Russia has actually been consecrated, when it will be, which pope will do it?
As for part three of the Secret - how much time have Traditionalists spent agonising over whether or not it has actually been revealed? How many books have been published claiming Vatican cօռspιʀαcιҽs? I have one in my possession, by Christopher Ferrara, titled 'The Secret: Still Hidden'.
This is the part of the Fatima message that I question.
As for your accusation that I am "putting doubt in the minds of those who are trying to live their Faith by obeying the message of Fatima" - penance, amendment of life and prayer are Catholic and their practice does not depend on Fatima.