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Sister Lucia Contradiction
« on: September 19, 2018, 11:08:04 PM »
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  • From the Fr Fuentes interview with Lucia in 1957 (later approved by the Bishop of Leiria- Fatima)

    Decisive Battle between Mary and Satan-

    “Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus, the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God because in this way, the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them.

    Religious and priests who fall away from their beautiful vocation drag numerous souls to hell...”


    Then a couple of decades later we have Cardinal Cafarras letter from ‘Sister Lucy’, and sometime during the pontificate of John Paul II-


    In that letter we find written: ‘The final battle between the Lord and the kingdom of Satan will be about Marriage and the Family.’ Don't be afraid, she added, because whoever works for the sanctity of Marriage and the Family will always be fought against and opposed in every way, because this is the decisive issue. 



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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #1 on: September 19, 2018, 11:19:35 PM »
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  • Lucia to Fr Fuentes, continued...

    ..”The punishment from Heaven is imminent. Father, how much time is there before 1960 arrives? It will be very sad for everyone, not one person will rejoice at all if beforehand the world does not pray and do penance. I am not able to give any other details because it is still a secret.


    Very different than this interview here with Lucia’s niece where when asked about The Secret and if people would see it as good or bad, she says that Lucia said it will be good for some but bad for others. 






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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #2 on: September 19, 2018, 11:21:10 PM »
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  • There is no contradiction in the devil engaging in battles against all the Sacraments, Our Lady of Quito said he would, and Our Lady of Fatima confirms it. The devil attacks consecrated religious and Priests on one hand hoping to make them fall from their vocation and into sins, and similarly attacks the Sacrament of Matrimony, trying to promote impurity and adultery, and causing souls to stray.
    "Take my advice and every day in Mass ask God to make you a great Saint"-St. Leonard. Go for Holy Mass every day to receive the Holy Body and Precious Blood of God. Do never skip Holy Mass for even one single day, if you want to become a Saint, as the Saints tell us, we should all aspire to become.

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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 11:30:33 PM »
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  • The Fr Fuentes Interview with Lucia and the attempt to silence the True Message of Fatima..

    https://fatima.org/about/fatima-opposed/silencing-of-the-messengers-father-fuentes-1959-1965/

    Read and meditate on this..the pleas of Our Lady are dire  :'(

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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 11:56:15 PM »
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  • There is no contradiction in the devil engaging in battles against all the Sacraments, Our Lady of Quito said he would, and Our Lady of Fatima confirms it. The devil attacks consecrated religious and Priests on one hand hoping to make them fall from their vocation and into sins, and similarly attacks the Sacrament of Matrimony, trying to promote impurity and adultery, and causing souls to stray.
    Of course the devil attacks all the Sacraments, that is not what is covered here, only comparing the new false message of Fatima that has replaced the original..the one from Our Lady through the real Sister Lucia. The messages are completely different, if not then, even the original is completely missing from the new Lucy interviews. Where is the warning of the attack on Consecrated Souls? The Homo Crisis in the Church that was hidden from the Laity during happening at the same time as the new interviews? The infiltration from Satanist Freemasons? Children being sexually abused??
    Heck we don’t even need a facial recognition done on Fake Lucy we already have enough contradictions to fill a stadium! 


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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #5 on: September 20, 2018, 11:52:42 AM »
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  • The OP is very interesting.  For those who don't believe that Sister Lucy 2 is the same as Sister Lucy 1, the message from Lucy 2 would probably be lacking elements if not an outright lie, or even be an attempt by anti-Fatima bishops to obfuscate about the real battle.  The battle against marriage and the family has been going on for decades and while gravely sinister, there is something worse.  Homosexuality.  What does the breakdown of marriage and the family lead to?  Homosexuality.  The biggest battle until very recently admittedly has been about the breakdown of marriage and the family.  But what has been going on in the clerical ranks is way worse.  

    The text by Sister Lucy 1 leads us to this conclusion as well:  “Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus, the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God because in this way, the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them. Religious and priests who fall away from their beautiful vocation drag numerous souls to hell..."


    The text talks about "souls consecrated to God"  That is not marriage and the family per se, it's priests and bishops. Also, the text mentions what most offends God and that has to be homosexuality, rape, the perversion of children and covering it up.

    And now the pedo/homo crisis has come, being the consequence of marriage and the family, but far worse in what most offends God.

    Excellent observation, Carissima




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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #6 on: September 20, 2018, 04:01:02 PM »
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  • What is important in this message, are 2 remedies.  Rosary and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Rosary is so effective that anything can be resolved!

    Establish devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, such as the total consecration.

    IF these remedies are openly rejected with full Knowledge, and consent, that it is despised and repulse "we will not have anymore forgiveness from heaven, salvation promised of the Holy Ghost.  It becomes a Sin against the Holy Ghost.

    This is what needs to be understood.

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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #7 on: September 20, 2018, 06:10:27 PM »
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  • What is important in this message, are 2 remedies.  Rosary and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Rosary is so effective that anything can be resolved!

    Establish devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, such as the total consecration.

    IF these remedies are openly rejected with full Knowledge, and consent, that it is despised and repulse "we will not have anymore forgiveness from heaven, salvation promised of the Holy Ghost.  It becomes a Sin against the Holy Ghost.

    This is what needs to be understood.
    You are right, Mary's instructions for our response is never promoted enough.  Fatima is not about getting angry, or writing letters to bishops (which is good) but this is more about the cure for our ills and the ills of the Church.  Sadly, had more people considered Our Lady's words more carefully, we might have seen this disaster coming and prevented it?  But then, we didn't even recognize the seriousness of the preceding problems years earlier, or any where along the way.  Now the Church is in shambles, the remedy still remains: Establish devotion to the Immaculate Heart, pray the rosary, and do penance.   


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    Re: Sister Lucia Contradiction
    « Reply #8 on: October 23, 2018, 12:47:38 PM »
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