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Offline saintbosco13

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Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 12:53:45 PM »
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  • And bosco can say this with a straight face while promoting the condemned error that someone can be saved in any religion whatsoever (condemned by Pius IX).  According to bosco, from the standpoint of soteriology, one creed is as good as another.

    And yet he claims that Feeneyites are "liberals"?

    It's just shocking that they can't see this.  Just shows how deep the malice and bad will run in these.
     
    Ah, the Liberals are now coming out of the woodwork!
     
    Try actually reading the book Ladi and you will see for yourself what Rome has approved of. R&R and the like are plainly condemned in the book. Funny you should make the malice/bad will accusation as the book goes into great detail on how Liberals love to whine about this. You stepped right in it!
     


    Offline saintbosco13

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 12:59:41 PM »
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  • The first point: Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. A Catholic views this as it is written. The Liberal Catholic says one must understand this as the Church understands it. Thus, implying that it means something other than what it says.
    The Second point: The Catholic believes that the Magisterium has declared that there is no Salvation outside the Church. The Liberal Catholic believes that this Magisterial pronouncement must be subjected to the further interpretation by non-magisterial men and books and thus widens the definition of what it means to be "IN" or "OUTSIDE" the Church effectively granting salvation to any "nice person".
    The Third point:The Catholic understands what infallible means and thus does not accept any teaching that contradicts an infallible teaching like EENS. The Liberal Catholic looks at the EENS Dogma and says this must be taken in a modified sense because a person can be united to the Church in some other way than the Church has defined. This point is to the Letter describing people like Bosco and LOT and all the rest. How much more plain does it have to be? The EENS' believers say this Dogma means exactly what it says because we believe it. The Liberal pelagians KNOW this teaching is infallible but do not believe this Dogma so they declare that it must be taken in a "modified sense" i.e. "as the Church understands it".
     
    LOL, don't try to hide your Liberalism or anything, shout it loud and clear! So embarrassing.... If you really did read the book, you have retained absolutely nothing from it.
     


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #17 on: August 03, 2017, 01:13:51 PM »
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  • Ah, the Liberals are now coming out of the woodwork!

    Says the heretical religious indifferentist.  :laugh1:

    Offline TKGS

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #18 on: August 03, 2017, 01:39:36 PM »
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  • What I find humorous is that when I first saw this topic title, I thought one of the answers was going to be:  Posts on the anonymous forum anonymously.

    Offline saintbosco13

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #19 on: August 04, 2017, 12:39:29 PM »
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  • Not that anyone needs further proof of your bad will and heresy, but this is very telling that you cannot see that this applies very specifically to you as I pointed out in my last post. Instead, you chose to ignore the content and post lies.
     
    The bottom line here is:
     
    1. The book "Liberalism Is a Sin" very specifically lists Liberal traits that should not be found in any Catholic
    2. Rome has highly praised the book so we know it is correct and contains good advice
    3. Many of the traits listed in the book happen to be used heavily by recognize and resisters, and also Feeneyites
    4. If you see any traits that apply to you, don't shoot the messenger, take the occasion to learn from it and to improve yourself as a Catholic
     


    Offline RoughAshlar

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #20 on: August 12, 2017, 12:50:19 AM »
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  • "Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism (false Catholicity)
    • He subjects commands and teachings of the Pope to the scrutiny of his own intellect"

    Wouldn't everyone in here still be in the novus ordo if this was the case? or does this just apply to pre-Vatican II teachings and not the recent pope?

    Offline Stubborn

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #21 on: August 12, 2017, 05:46:46 AM »
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  • "Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism (false Catholicity)
    • He subjects commands and teachings of the Pope to the scrutiny of his own intellect"

    Wouldn't everyone in here still be in the novus ordo if this was the case? or does this just apply to pre-Vatican II teachings and not the recent pope?
    Actually RA, not only is this above quote is not from the book, it is an adulterated version of what actually is in the book, adulterated to suit the specific, corrupted agenda of bosco.


    What the book actually says is:
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    Such is the general negation uttered by Liberalism. From this radical denial of revealed truth in
    general, naturally follows the denial of particular dogmas in whole or in part, as circuмstances
    present them in opposition to its rationalistic judgement. Thus, for instance, it denies the validity
    of faith by baptism, when it admits or supposes the equality of any or all religious cults; it denies
    the sanctity of marriage, when it sanctions so called civil marriages; it denies the infallibility of
    the Roman Pontiff, when it refuses to accept as laws his official commands and teachings, and
     subjects them to the scrutiny of its own intellect, not to assure itself of their authenticity, as
    is legitimate, but to sit in defiant judgement upon their contents.

    The OP is the one who adheres to the denial of particular dogmas and refuses to accept as the law, the popes' infallible teachings and commands, but in keeping with his agenda of slandering those who accept and bind themselves too, and accept as law those infallible teachings of popes, he necessarily must adulterate what the book actually says. The man is iniquitous.   
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #22 on: August 12, 2017, 07:30:15 AM »
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  • Alright, thank you for clearing that up for me.


    Offline MaterDolorosa

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #23 on: August 31, 2017, 08:59:25 AM »
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  • Wow.

    Offline OHCA

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    Re: Signs that a Catholic is tainted with Liberalism
    « Reply #24 on: September 05, 2017, 11:44:19 PM »
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  • What I find humorous is that when I first saw this topic title, I thought one of the answers was going to be:  Posts on the anonymous forum anonymously.
    This falls under "Signs that a man is effeminate" and "You don't have a boyfriend--you have a girlfriend."