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Offline roscoe

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« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2009, 08:57:46 PM »
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  • Caminus-- do you believe there is such a thing as an anti-pope?
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #61 on: June 24, 2009, 10:38:02 PM »
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  • Caminus' beliefs are based entirely on emotion and he throws dogmatic theology and Divine Providence out the window.  It doesn't matter at all whether he believes there is a such thing as an antipope or not.


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    « Reply #62 on: June 24, 2009, 10:50:42 PM »
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    Oh, I see, he can malign Popes and Saints and cause schism by his opining, and you simply call it being "mistaken" yet you hold out the most vicious attacks for those who disagree with your opinions.


    You sir, have behaved both hypocritically and arrogantly on this forum, numerous times. You accuse me of the same things, yet look at your own posts. I've yet to see you show the least bit of respect towards anyone that holds opposing views, I hardly even know what views you support, such is the extent of the bitterness you show towards all of ours. I have yet to "hold out the most vicious attacks" against anyone on this forum, and if I have, then bring forth the evidence. It seems to me that you hold all those who debate with you to be beneath you in intelligence and humility. I speak not as I think or feel, but as I have observed.
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    Get real.  The incongruity is glaring.  


    No sir, you must look in the mirror.

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    You haven't the moral judgment to issue general warnings to other Catholics.    


    You are correct. Nobody needs to tell me that I am a bad Catholic. In fact, I'm not really even Catholic, the only valid sacrament I've received is Baptism. I don't need you hurling garbage at me, accusing me of being arrogant and whatever else you, or at those who I consider to be my online "friends".


    If you think there is even a remote moral equivalence between my faults and "Catholicmartyr's" throwing out Saints and Popes and calling everyone a "schismatic" who doesn't hold his opinions then you need your head checked.  Do you not realize the seriousness of these assertions?  They are the gravest of accusations which no true Catholic could accept.  He needs to be banned for his calumnous lies.  He is of the Devil.  

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    « Reply #63 on: June 24, 2009, 10:54:25 PM »
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  • they are sock puppets and should be banned

    don't engage, Caminus

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    « Reply #64 on: June 24, 2009, 10:55:58 PM »
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    they are sock puppets and should be banned

    don't engage, Caminus


    Laughable. Utterly laughable. ChantCD, would you mind telling our friend Elizabeth that she has just uttered a lie?


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    « Reply #65 on: June 24, 2009, 11:18:42 PM »
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  • Elizabeth, you are wrong.  I believe Padre Pio is a schismatic for adhering to the heretical antipopes.  He may very well have been giving and receiving valid sacraments, but his ignorance to the heresies of Vatican II was not invincible and therefore he cannot be excused.

    Now go look at DeMaistre's blog, and see that he promotes Pio.  He shouldn't but he does.

    Sock puppets indeed.  Yes DeMaistre:  Laughable!

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    « Reply #66 on: June 25, 2009, 01:00:33 AM »
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  • Roscoe, you have now avoided my question for about the ten millionth time.  How did Gregory XVII, if he were Pope, create a College of Cardinals and elect a new Pope?  And where is that new Pope?

    Don't you know, my John Lennon-worshipping, Moor-hating friend, that you are without a Pope, whether you like it or not?  You think not being a sedevacantist will get you into heaven but it's more likely to keep you out.  The sedevacantist position is the right one for our time and expresses the truth of our situation.  

    Now go and play with your imaginary friend, Gregory XX, who you just know exists without any proof whatsoever except from a bunch of potboiler-writing con men.


    As I was a new convert when posting here, my posts are often full of error, even unwitting heresy and rash judgment, all of which I renounce, and all my writings are best avoided -- MDLS

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    « Reply #67 on: June 25, 2009, 01:10:34 AM »
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    they are sock puppets and should be banned

    don't engage, Caminus


    You're awesome.


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    « Reply #68 on: June 25, 2009, 01:31:31 AM »
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  • And Dawn, I'm kind of disappointed with you on this one.  The CIA?  And someone else talks about Life Magazine.  You might as well say that Pravda has an article proving the election of Siri.

    Again, I'm not saying that Siri wasn't elected Pope.  But when you refuse the sedevacantist position as if it were some kind of heresy, saying that you are better because you believe in an invisible Pope, you are damaging truth and leading people on a wild-goose chase.  Fine, pray for the "Pontiff" in case he's out there, but you have no proof at all that he is, and neither do I.  

    The dishonesty of all the Siri theorists is shown when they cannot answer my question:  How did Siri make Cardinals while under surveillance?  I'm going to keep repeating this so anyone who reads this thread will know that you are fantasizing and unable to face the reality of the situation.

    You are being set-up, I fear.  You are easy marks for someone to come out of the woodwork, saying he was elected by Siri, and who will be a fraud, part of a business scheme or cult.  Good luck.
    As I was a new convert when posting here, my posts are often full of error, even unwitting heresy and rash judgment, all of which I renounce, and all my writings are best avoided -- MDLS

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    « Reply #69 on: June 25, 2009, 07:20:21 AM »
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  • Let me explain, I realize that Siri was elected Pope. Now, what they did in to him in the interim I am not certain of.
    I have never said that he created cardinals or anything in secret. I do not think anything of the sort would have been possible as he was under close watch  until his death. Maybe he did, I have no proof. I do know that Pope Pius XII made cardinals and bishops in secret that were to uphold tradition. He did this because he knew that after his death the deluge would come.
    Anyway, I am certainly sede now as I see no other person who could be pontiff.

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    « Reply #70 on: June 25, 2009, 01:00:55 PM »
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    I realize that Siri was elected Pope.


    No, in fact you don't, for your imagination doesn't amount to reality.  You have to get your mind to confirm to reality, not the other way around.  There are rules to this endeavor and you're not following them very well.  


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    « Reply #71 on: June 25, 2009, 01:01:51 PM »
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  • confirm=conform

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    « Reply #72 on: June 26, 2009, 12:03:03 AM »
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    Roscoe, you have now avoided my question for about the ten millionth time.  How did Gregory XVII, if he were Pope, create a College of Cardinals and elect a new Pope?  And where is that new Pope?

    Don't you know, my John Lennon-worshipping, Moor-hating friend, that you are without a Pope, whether you like it or not?  You think not being a sedevacantist will get you into heaven but it's more likely to keep you out.  The sedevacantist position is the right one for our time and expresses the truth of our situation.  

    Now go and play with your imaginary friend, Gregory XX, who you just know exists without any proof whatsoever except from a bunch of potboiler-writing con men.


    I do not know how Greg XVII made cardinals but over yrs he would have a way.

    As far as where the new Pope is I do not know at this time-- I hope no one is dumb enough to imagine that a catacombs scenario has never happened b4.

    You are now decending into flights of delerium with your accusations that I 'worship' John Lennon or 'hate' Moors. I have never said anything remotely close to that as is available for all to read.
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    « Reply #73 on: June 27, 2009, 11:42:38 PM »
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    If you think there is even a remote moral equivalence between my faults and "Catholicmartyr's" throwing out Saints and Popes and calling everyone a "schismatic" who doesn't hold his opinions then you need your head checked.  Do you not realize the seriousness of these assertions?  They are the gravest of accusations which no true Catholic could accept.  He needs to be banned for his calumnous lies.  He is of the Devil.


    So do you wish him to be damned for his sin? I do not. Its good to hate his error (I'll contact you via email, CM), but why do you extend this to his person? You as well CM. There is a Buddhist saying, "Hate does not cease by hate. Hate ceases by love - this is an ancient law".

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    « Reply #74 on: June 28, 2009, 01:57:22 AM »
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