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Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2018, 05:08:53 PM »
Actually we've had no pope since Clement XIV suppressed the Jesuits. ;)
I actually think I prefer poche over Herm despite the fact that both are Novus Ordites.

Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2018, 05:32:51 PM »
Herm is a Novus Ordo troll and should not be fed.


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Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2018, 05:34:08 PM »
If this is so, then I don't see how this argument can be made against sedevacantism, because the promise of indestructibility of the local Church of Rome would be compromised when there is NO legitimate Vicar of Christ living there. During an interregnum, there is no Roman Pontiff.

Precisely; my point has been that this argument is no different than any broader argument against sedevacantism (of the ecclesiavacantist variety).

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Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2018, 05:38:49 PM »
Thank you for honestly admitting that you believe the Roman Church has defected.

Logic doesn't seem to register with your mind.

As I said earlier, please draw some implications vis-a-vis the present Crisis from the notion that the Roman Church can't defect.  Until then, no one is even in a position to refute this nonsense.  We don't even have an argument to address.  It's also true that the Church as a WHOLE cannot defect.  R&R claim that SVism causes the Church as a whole to defect based on the idea that jurisdiction would have ceased.  SVs argue that R&R causes the Church to defect because it posits a massive systemic failure of the Magisterium.  But nobody has any idea what implications you're trying to draw or what argument you're trying to make from this notion that the Roman Church can't defect.  You just keep mindlessly pasting in the same CE quote over and over again.

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Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2018, 05:41:25 PM »
Herm is a Novus Ordo troll and should not be fed.

Nobody knows WHAT it is.  Heck, it doesn't even have an assigned gender.  Maybe Herm is short for hermaphrodite for all we know.

This Herm either won't or can't even articulate itself to the point that anyone has any idea where it stands on the Crisis.