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Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2018, 03:55:11 PM »
There certainly are similarities with the Old Catholics in their view about the Church of Rome.
And there are no similarities between what St. Robert and what they are saying about a heretical pope.
They ignore St. Robert's teaching about the local Church of Rome. He wrote a whole chapter on it but it is conveniently ignored by the sedes.

I am curious about the point you try to make here. It is my understanding that in the mentioned chapter St. Bellarmine is defending the proposition that the local Church is indefectible precisely because the legitimate sucessor of St. Peter lives there and will not transfer to any other episcopate but Rome. We will never have a pope who is bishop of Constantinople, for example, but only of Bishop of Rome.

If this is so, then I don't see how this argument can be made against sedevacantism, because the promise of indestructibility of the local Church of Rome would be compromised when there is NO legitimate Vicar of Christ living there. During an interregnum, there is no Roman Pontiff.

Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2018, 09:13:24 PM »
As per usual, Meg, you see what you want to see.  You base everything on emotion and should therefore probably recuse yourself from all theological discussions.
You are a bully. 


Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2018, 09:15:24 PM »
You appear obsessed 
It's o.k. for you to go on and on about a subject but if someone else does they're obsessed?
You really are a bully...

Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2018, 10:43:52 PM »
As you say, the local Roman Church is indefectible. An interregnum doesn't change this fact.

Do you agree with this:

Yes, I agree.

The local Roman Church is indefectible in virtue of the pope. What makes it indefectible is that St. Peter and his legitimate successors reside there and Our Lord specifically prayed for the intention of His Vicar not ever losing his Faith. However, I am uncertain of what may occur when the legitimate successor of St. Peter is NOT there.

Re: should I be a seda? uncertain
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2018, 11:15:05 PM »
I have heard different things on the seda vacantist issue.. about going to NO masses

Should u stay away from NO Masses even if you feel the HOly Spirit at those masses?

I frankly think the answer is No, you shouldn't stay away.

I did feel like staying away from this one, though... but it was bc teh priest is evil... uncharitable, etc... may be a heretic... probably is, in fact
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