Author Topic: Shoes of the Fisherman - preparing world for JP2? (Read 2477 times)

Matthew · « **on:** June 02, 2010, 08:03:38 PM »

You can watch it in 17 parts on Youtube.

The movie is from 1968, about a JP2-like papacy.

Only problem is -- John Paul II was elected in 1978.

So how did they get so many things dead-on?

Is this another example of the Bad Guys using "projection" where they put themes in movies, etc. to get us ready for what they plan to do?

Matthew

Alexandria · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:07:05 PM »

Is this the Anthony Quinn movie? I read the book in the sixties. They used it as a big propaganda effort to push the changes after Vatican II.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:56:00 PM »

I love that movie.

Makes ya think that they deliberately planted JP2, no?

Just too many coincidences IMO.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2010, 09:46:43 PM »

Puts me in mind of Thomas Merton. I'm floored, only on pt.4
:plant: :plant: :plant: :plant: :plant:

Someone gave me the book ages ago but I couldn't stand to read it.

Isn't this just amazing? Who does the writer on the plane represent? Tiellard de Chardin?

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2010, 11:16:44 PM »

His name did sound a bit like it.

It could have been any number of Modernists -- though it reminded me of the one who was "exiled" somewhere or other, and was brought back as a peritus (expert) for Vatican II.

I'm really, really bad with names! Someone can fill in the details.

Matthew

Matthew · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2010, 11:21:25 PM »

PLEASE NOTE:

For part 8, you have to get it here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bigpappa1967#p/u/33/hQBWN-bB3zY

Elizabeth · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:05:17 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Makes ya think that they deliberately planted JP2, no?

:furtive:

Or how about the shooting, after which JP2 was taken to the wrong hospital and given tainted blood? (according to Malachi Martin)

Planted or perhaps implanted? Might the Parkinson's be a system of something else?

Thomas Merton's story is very disturbing, and he was revealed as a "plant" . Did Merton commit ѕυιcιdє?

But that movie is a must-see!

Belloc · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2010, 09:48:38 AM »

what is the deal on Merton?

Elizabeth · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2010, 10:20:31 AM »

Merton had and still does have a strong influence as the American Mystic. He was supposedly a Trappist Monk- wrote some very popular books. One was The Seven Story Mountain He was very destructive to the practice of Roman Catholicism.

He was a Bhuddist, and an agent some alphabet group or ?????

Doggone it, Belloc. Finding out about Merton was a turning point, and now I can't even qualify it.

<<<-------That's for my head, not yours.

He died of electrocution in a bath in Bangkok or someplace.

Now I'm going to go pray and take some brain supplements.

Matthew · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2010, 10:23:04 AM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Isn't this just amazing? Who does the writer on the plane represent? Tiellard de Chardin?

From Wikipedia:

Quote

Much of the characteristics of Father Telemond were based on the controversial French Jesuit paleontologist Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.

Belloc · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2010, 02:53:45 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Merton had and still does have a strong influence as the American Mystic. He was supposedly a Trappist Monk- wrote some very popular books. One was The Seven Story Mountain He was very destructive to the practice of Roman Catholicism.

He was a Bhuddist, and an agent some alphabet group or ?????

Doggone it, Belloc. Finding out about Merton was a turning point, and now I can't even qualify it. <<<-------That's for my head, not yours.

He died of electrocution in a bath in Bangkok or someplace.

Now I'm going to go pray and take some brain supplements.

always heard some bad things about him, a NO/syncretist, but, do you feel someone murdered him? who?

Elizabeth · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2010, 03:33:28 PM »

Belloc, I'm wracking my brains to recall my source.

I'll google around after swimming..

Ladislaus · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2010, 07:48:48 PM »

Yeah, it was Chardin alright. He kept talking about stuff that sounded like Chardin's "Omega Point" nonsense.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2010, 07:53:02 PM »

Well, you can sue me, but I found the movie Angels and Demons to be very interesting. I hesitated giving even 10 cents of the 50-cent rental to Hanks and Brown. Of course Hanks can't help slamming the Church throughout the movie.. What I found very interesting was the revelation of who the actual villain turned out to be and what his true motivation was.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #14 on:** June 04, 2010, 04:50:09 PM »

I've got two more parts of Shoes to watch.

I would watch Angels and Demons online if I knew it would not be a mortal sin, based on what Lad says.

How is sin avoided in this case? Thanks.

PS, still no nothing to jog my memory about Merton. I am thinking it was an interview with Michael Corbin or one of Fr. Gruner's guests, and I remember that the info on Merton caused me to wonder seriously about JP2. Sorry for making any unfounded accusations.