Author Topic: Serious questions (Read 8528 times)

CM · « **Reply #35 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:18:18 PM »

Let me ask you a question Prodinoscopus:

If Caesar commanded you to bow to an idol... oh nevermind.

Prodinoscopus · « **Reply #36 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:36:34 PM »

Oh, of course, Mr. Catholic Martyr-wannabe, you are the only person on this board who would not falter under threat of death.

You make the most extreme sedevacantist look like a happy-clappy Novus Ordite. You have made of yourself a Church of one.

Prodinoscopus · « **Reply #37 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:52:38 PM »

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Now that was a ridiculous reply Prodinoscopus.

First you implicitly relegate obedience of the 1st Commandment to being a matter of convenience.

Second, you imply that it is I who place this burden upon him, when in fact it is Divine and natural Law that prohibits worship of any but the one true God.

Third you say "without lifting a finger to help him," as though there were something I could do, other than to point out his duty to resist all 'authority' that commands him to sin.

1. Your own sense of absolute certainty notwithstanding, it is not de fide and binding on anyone else's conscience that attending a non-sede Traditionalist Mass (or even a Novus Ordo Mass) is a violation of the 1st Commandment. It is an unsettled matter of opinion.

2. Your second point still begs the same question as the first.

3. If you actually knew DeMaistre and could speak with him face-to-face, you might be able to help him in ways other than thundering your anathemas from behind an anonymous avatar on an internet discussion board. Have the wisdom to understand the limits of your medium.

CM · « **Reply #38 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:39:46 PM »

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1. Your own sense of absolute certainty notwithstanding, it is not de fide and binding on anyone else's conscience that attending a non-sede Traditionalist Mass (or even a Novus Ordo Mass) is a violation of the 1st Commandment. It is an unsettled matter of opinion.

Your opinion. He said 'against his will', so obviously his conscience objects and he does not share your opinion, unless he chose his words poorly. Do you think that one may do something that one believes to be a sin and remain free from guilt?

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Oh, of course, Mr. Catholic Martyr-wannabe, you are the only person on this board who would not falter under threat of death.

I never said that and you're putting words in my mouth like so many others on this board. It is transparent calumny and not very classy.

You know that it is wrong to bow before idols or any false gods, even under pain of death, how much more so attending something you believe to be false worship when your parents tell you to?

Prodinoscopus · « **Reply #39 on:** June 24, 2009, 07:08:54 AM »

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Quote from: Prodinscopus
1. Your own sense of absolute certainty notwithstanding, it is not de fide and binding on anyone else's conscience that attending a non-sede Traditionalist Mass (or even a Novus Ordo Mass) is a violation of the 1st Commandment. It is an unsettled matter of opinion.

Your opinion. He said 'against his will', so obviously his conscience objects and he does not share your opinion, unless he chose his words poorly. Do you think that one may do something that one believes to be a sin and remain free from guilt?

Quote from: Prodinoscopus
Oh, of course, Mr. Catholic Martyr-wannabe, you are the only person on this board who would not falter under threat of death.

I never said that and you're putting words in my mouth like so many others on this board. It is transparent calumny and not very classy.

You know that it is wrong to bow before idols or any false gods, even under pain of death, how much more so attending something you believe to be false worship when your parents tell you to?

DeMaistre's opinion on sedevacantism appears to be unsettled.