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Offline gladius_veritatis

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To all the "sedes"
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2009, 02:19:25 AM »
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  • Quote from: Prodinoscopus
    St. Catherine (assuming that the quote attributed to her is accurate) is not saying that we must obey a bad pope in everything, whether he is carving up and eating golden retriever puppies or saying that Jews and Muslims worship the same God as Catholics.


    If you think these are in the same or remotely similar categories, your mind is mush.  Come to think of it, so is BXVI's, so it all fits.
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    « Reply #31 on: June 22, 2009, 02:52:31 AM »
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  • Sorry, p.dino, but I get tired of people unnecessarily mixing things up in an already difficult hour.

    Fornicating six ways to Sunday, all over Rome, is not - NOT - the same as teaching in a public document that the Jews' wait for the Messias is not in vain, etc.  Cheerio.
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    « Reply #32 on: June 22, 2009, 02:54:45 AM »
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  • Hosting slumber parties for boy-toys in the Vatican apartments, for example, is NOT on the same level as hosting the 1986 abomination at Assisi.
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    « Reply #33 on: June 22, 2009, 03:26:58 PM »
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  • Exactly, gladius.  But I thank God every day for dogmatic statements like Lumen Gentium, and the invalid Holy Orders, and invalid Mass, because without them we'd have to go to Church with everyone else and take the host from child-molesters.  

    Sometimes I feel sorry for Donatists, at least the first generation of them, because they were being asked to go to Church with bishops who had sold out their families and gotten many Catholics killed and mutilated.  But EVEN THEN we have to be obedient.  Even if a priest gives up the location of your mother to a communist out of fear, and she ends up being torn apart with wire pincers, as long as he holds the faith, he is still a priest.  You can't start your own church and say "These priests have all sold-out."

    Immorality and heresy are two different things.  That being said, though immorality has been rampant in the Church before, there IS a connection between this deeper level of sin, this running theme of pederasty, and the heresy of Vatican II.  These Vatican II "priests" are what you might call "totally abandoned."  They know they have crossed the line and are on their way to hell, and this is what makes them so unafraid of the most vile blasphemies.  

    These are the sort of men who aren't "screened-out" of the hiring process to be priests.  You know who is screened-out?  Anyone who says the priest is primary and the laity is secondary; or who wants to remind people emphatically of the principle of transubstantiation; or anyone who might wake the flock up to tradition and truth.  Think of that incident where "Bishop" Tod Brown of Orange County walked right past a woman who was kneeling to receive fake-communion.  Oh boy, do these sneering homosexuals HATE God, because they refuse to try to live up to his laws.
    As I was a new convert when posting here, my posts are often full of error, even unwitting heresy and rash judgment, all of which I renounce, and all my writings are best avoided -- MDLS

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    « Reply #34 on: June 22, 2009, 04:22:54 PM »
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    But I thank God every day for dogmatic statements like Lumen Gentium, and the invalid Holy Orders, and invalid Mass, because without them we'd have to go to Church with everyone else and take the host from child-molesters.


    You have some very strange and uncatholic ideas on what being a faithful, obedient catholic entails.    

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    Sometimes I feel sorry for Donatists


    That explains alot.  


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    « Reply #35 on: June 24, 2009, 01:37:20 PM »
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    But I thank God every day for dogmatic statements like Lumen Gentium, and the invalid Holy Orders, and invalid Mass, because without them we'd have to go to Church with everyone else and take the host from child-molesters.


    You know Caminus, I've been trying to understand just what the heck he is saying here, and I can't seem to figure it out.

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    « Reply #36 on: June 24, 2009, 01:39:31 PM »
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  • Nevermind, I get it.  He's saying (I think) that in God's mercy, he allowed some of the attempts at deception by the devil to be so overtly clear as to expose himself so that some people would see the truth.

     

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