If you see a person walking towards a building wearing a red shirt, and then you see him about to enter, his hand on the door and showing no signs of stopping, but you turn around and leave a split second before he would pass through the doorway, then it's a moral certainty that he went in wearing a red shirt. That's not to say that he didn't stop, take a blue shirt out of his backpack and replace the red shirt with it, but all outward signs that you have seen showed this guy to have entered the building wearing a red shirt.
My grandfather raised a family of apostates, and showed no outward signs of repentance or conversion. It is a moral certainty that he is in hell, and if anyone still wants to argue with me on this, you better look up "moral certainty" before doing so.
That's not to say that it's impossible God saved him, for His mercy is great, but it would certainly call into question His justice. It would be folly to undermine either one of these perfect Divine Attributes.1 St. Peter 4:18
"And if the just man shall scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"St. Matthew 7:13:
"Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat."
Some people don't seem to understand or accept that we are bound to believe as the Faith requires us to believe. We must believe according to the harmonious relationship of Sacred Scripture and Tradition, so of course I believe my grandfather is in hell.
CatholicMartyr...um, I think I know your problem now. Hate is unhealthy (I know this sounds like something a Novus Ordo-ite would say). It clouds the mind. I try to stay detached from any emotion at all.
Young man, your statement implies that I have a problem. Surely everyone else on this board thinks so, because I reject the heresy BoD even as logic and Church teachings dictate I must. You also reject BoD as heresy, and I often wonder why you are not more vocal about it, especially when your voice could lend support to defending the Truth in the various threads which touch on the topic.
As for hate being unhealthy... Is it unhealthy to hate sin? Is it unhealthy to hate devils? Is it unhealthy to hate one's own sinful actions? Is it unhealthy to hate Judas Iscariot?
I do not hate any person on this forum. I love each and every one for the sake of God, who created the nature of each one, but who hates their sins (and mine). This love is commanded by God and often repeated in Scripture."
Why then, does the Lord say "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."?
Doesn't this contradict the command to love our neighbour as ourselves? No. It is because we must hate evil. When someone dies and goes to hell, there is no good in them at all, they are evil through and through, being punished by God with privation of any and all good. We of course are bound to hate the souls in hell.Psalms 96:10:
"You that love the Lord, hate evil,"
No DeMaistre. My problem is not hate, and you should agree now that I have explained the valid Catholic perspective of my just hatred of evil, and the fact that we are commanded in Scripture to have such hate. My problem is the same as everyone else's; fallen human nature and the fact that I am despicable in the sight of God for my countless sins against him, which, although repented, still give me great shame and fear and trembling.