Author Topic: Serious questions (Read 7638 times)

CM · « **on:** June 21, 2009, 10:59:49 PM »

How many of you have relatives who have died outside the Catholic Church?

Answer these questions please if you have the stones:

1) Do you assent to the Church's teaching that these people are in hell?

2) If so, do you love them still or do you hate them?

Raoul76 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:23:57 PM »

I have a very small family, but here goes:

My father is in Novus Ordo but we haven't talked for ten years.

My grandmother on my mom's side dropped out of the Catholic Church in the 1950's and began reading Betty Friedan and saying things like "I don't like submitting to a man." The chances are not only great that she is in hell, but I believe she was an actual witch.

My grandfather's only theological opinion was that he didn't see "what kind of God would allow innocent children to suffer." He was a simple soul who needed guidance from someone other than my grandma, but she yanked him away from the Church.

My uncle is a resolute atheist and scientist.

( 1 ) I am not the one who judges who is in hell, but according to the Church's teachings my grandma and grandpa are in hell and my father will also be going if he doesn't escape this counterfeit "Church." My uncle is already condemned because he doesn't believe.

( 2 ) Sometimes I feel hate for my grandmother, because she had a deliberate, burning hatred towards the Church. She also endangered my mom's soul. The rest I am sorry for. I have been thinking of re-establishing contact with my father and trying to help him see the truth, but the chances are slim.

Do you think, CM, that the Church requires us to hate those who are lost?

If my mother lost the faith that one would be very, very difficult for me, but I would still follow Christ and leave her to her fate. My fear of God and my fear of hell is too great to follow anyone who puts me at risk.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:32:58 PM »

Oh sorry, you were asking about dead relatives.

Prodinoscopus · « **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2009, 12:16:13 AM »

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... if you have the stones ...

So I guess that the ladies cannot answer your question?

For such a serious Catholic, that seems a rather crude and worldly thing to say.

Anyway, I've got 'em and I'm game for your question.

My uncle died recently. He was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and a determined atheist. He was also an apostate, having been raised the right way by my very devout Catholic grandmother.

1) Of course I assent to the Church's teaching that those who die outside the Catholic Church will go straight to hell. (By the way, that's going to spell big trouble for one of us.)

2) To hate my uncle, I would have to know that he died outside the Church and is, in fact, in hell. I don't have that knowledge, only God does.

I hate the devil, because it is an article of the Faith that he is in hell.

Caminus · « **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2009, 01:35:41 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

How many of you have relatives who have died outside the Catholic Church?

Answer these questions please if you have the stones:

1) Do you assent to the Church's teaching that these people are in hell?

2) If so, do you love them still or do you hate them?

Why worry about all those other people when you should really just consider your own situation and the fact that you are clearly on the road to hell yourself. The demon that is currently tormenting your mind will be the one allowed to take you there.