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Re: Seers of La Salette aren't even saints!
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2018, 01:57:35 PM »
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    • Arsenius: "Here is a good article on Fatima from an Orthodox perspective"

    That does not look like a "good" article.  The author doesn't even seem to know what the "Immaculate Conception" refers to.  
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    Re: Seers of La Salette aren't even saints!
    « Reply #16 on: May 19, 2018, 02:41:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: B from A on May 19, 2018, 01:57:35 PM
    Arsenius: "Here is a good article on Fatima from an Orthodox perspective"

    That does not look like a "good" article.  The author doesn't even seem to know what the "Immaculate Conception" refers to.  
    And I'm wondering how anything from the schismatic Orthodox perspective can be "good".  Either Arsensius is Orthodox or Eastern Novus Ordo.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Seers of La Salette aren't even saints!
    « Reply #17 on: May 19, 2018, 06:08:45 PM »
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    • We can not overlook Chapter 12 of Daniel, The Mass will come to an end.  When I read, seldom do I read that Jєωs of Russia are the Bolshevik Communism.  When I read encyclicals, I read "enemies", nouns other than Jєω.  Fr. Fahey let  the "cat" out of the bag and gave the enemy a name.
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    Re: Seers of La Salette aren't even saints!
    « Reply #18 on: May 20, 2018, 06:57:34 AM »
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    • Matthew,
    you are getting totally confused.
    I don't know about Maximen, but Melanie was certainly a saint. Not Canonised, but a saint. She had the stigmata from the age of 5. Was given the gift of tongues, and had visions of our Lord from the earliest age.

    I don't see what sedes have to do with this at all. It is possible for Rome to become the seat of the AntiChrist, and for it to lose the faith, as it as already.

    But it is NOT now, because we are still waiting for the period of peace, which la Salette mentions is 25 years.
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    Re: Seers of La Salette aren't even saints!
    « Reply #19 on: May 20, 2018, 09:36:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on May 19, 2018, 01:25:49 PM
    and stressed to me not to believe the other false booklets in circulation. The fact there there are multiple "versions" of what Our Lady said suggests to me some kind of coverup operation.

    How many Traditional Catholics know this? I would wager "only a handful", based on my experience. And how many Trad Catholics have done any research into which published accounts are true and which are fake/embellished? Do we just go with the one(s) that suit our opinions and worldview the best? I'm asking an honest question here. We should be after the truth, not validation of our existing opinions or positions. If the truth happens to validate us, then "great".

    In conclusion, the preceding paragraph describes why I started these couple threads on La Salette. I discovered by accident a "competing" account of La Salette, and was totally unprepared for it, since no one even told me, "Oh, there are lots of fake versions of La Salette floating around..."

    But it's more than that -- even if Our Lady did say, "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist" how many think that is being fulfilled today -- or has been fulfilled? Anyone who thinks so DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the La Salette prophecy: otherwise they must believe that Pope Francis is the Antichrist, and that he is sitting in the Temple, giving himself out as a god, working demonic miracles. Needless to say, anyone holding such a belief is in objective error.

    So even when La Salette isn't being co-opted by completely fake prophecies, Trads of good will are distorting and misunderstanding the true prophecies in it!

    I'm familiar with Fatima, Lourdes, etc. and none of those have controversy or lots of fakes. With Fatima, you just have the ridiculous "Third Secret" released by the Conciliar Church recently, which causes ZERO confusion for Trads. In other words, Fatima is simple. La Salette doesn't seem to be. It seems to be more of a minefield.

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    Re: Seers of La Salette aren't even saints!
    « Reply #20 on: May 20, 2018, 06:10:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on May 19, 2018, 06:08:45 PM
    We can not overlook Chapter 12 of Daniel, The Mass will come to an end.  When I read, seldom do I read that Jєωs of Russia are the Bolshevik Communism.  When I read encyclicals, I read "enemies", nouns other than Jєω.  Fr. Fahey let  the "cat" out of the bag and gave the enemy a name.
    I think you raise a good point. Daniel Chapter 12: 10-12 says
    Many shall be chosen, and made white, and shall be tried as fire: and the wicked shall deal wickedly, and none of the wicked shall understand, but the learned shall understand. [11] And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days, [12]
    The "continual sacrifice" can be nothing other than the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Its use has already been greatly diminished by the use of the N.O. We are told in Daniel that this ending of the continual sacrifice will come at a time in the future. And even when it does, the Church will continue to exist because we have the promise of Jesus to Saint Peter that "the gates of hell will not prevail against it."
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    Re: Seers of La Salette aren't even saints!
    « Reply #21 on: May 20, 2018, 10:48:55 PM »
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    • Jesus' promise to Peter was "The gates of Hell shall not prevail." 
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