Author Topic: Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there? (Read 20112 times)

SeekerOfTruth · « **Reply #40 on:** September 05, 2014, 01:41:05 PM »

Quote from: AlligatorDicax

Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum (Sep 4, 2014, 8:57 am)
You seem to be ahead of the game, SeekerofTruth. [....]  Have you looked into Sacred Heart Traditional Chapel in Orlando?

Whether one types the phrase "orlando traditional catholic", or "traditional catholic orlando", into an Internet search engine, whether it's the privacy-hostile <www.google.com>, or the privacy-conserving <ixquick.com/>, the first nonadvertising result is <orlando-sacred-heart.org> (the customary "www." being optional). That's exactly the Web site you'd want to find.

The church provides a remarkably extensive slate of Masses and devotions (I've been told that the Missale Romanum is a 1948 edition). A link to its regular "SCHEDULE" is in the middle section of the menu-stripe on the Web site's main page, just below the name-plate. The header content below the name-plate provides not only the church's address, but also (for the directionally challenged) its latitude & longitude.

As for apostolic succession:
Pastor Louis Montelongo was ordained to the Catholic priesthood, according to the traditional rite, by independent Bp. Timothy Hennebery (R.I.P. June 2012).
Asst. Pastor Jonathan Derrington was ordained to the Catholic priesthood, according to the traditional rite, by independent Bp. Patrick Taylor (for whose valid succession through Bp. Thuc, Fr. Rama Coomaraswamy specifically cited confirmation by Fr. Malachi Martin's highly placed sources).

AlligatorD,

Correct me if I am wrong, I believe, that Fr. Montelongo is connected to the independent Tampa chapel. So that clears up what I forgot to ask the sede priest from the Tampa chapel.

SeekerOfTruth · « **Reply #41 on:** September 05, 2014, 02:42:44 PM »

I found it odd what the British Trad priest in Spring Hill told me. If I recall correctly he said he was formerly a sede but because of a teaching on perpetual succession he has since come to believe that the Seat is not vacant and that he has to offer the Mass in union with Francis and the local bishop because of this belief. And yet he is not trying to join them because there is a spiritual necessity to provide the pre-1955 Mass. Unless I misunderstood him, this is what I think he was telling me.

curioustrad · « **Reply #42 on:** September 05, 2014, 04:10:47 PM »

Sacred Heart under + Montelongo uses the pre -'55 and accepts Francis as Pope so do many independents and even FSSP, the Institute of Christ the King (not every priest and of course they won't say this publicly). It's only generally in ex-SSPX circles that the pre-'55 is associated with sedevacantism.

curioustrad · « **Reply #43 on:** September 05, 2014, 04:36:01 PM »

Quote from: SeekerOfTruth

Quote from: AlligatorDicax
Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum (Sep 4, 2014, 8:57 am)
You seem to be ahead of the game, SeekerofTruth. [....]  Have you looked into Sacred Heart Traditional Chapel in Orlando?

Whether one types the phrase "orlando traditional catholic", or "traditional catholic orlando", into an Internet search engine, whether it's the privacy-hostile <www.google.com>, or the privacy-conserving <ixquick.com/>, the first nonadvertising result is <orlando-sacred-heart.org> (the customary "www." being optional). That's exactly the Web site you'd want to find.

The church provides a remarkably extensive slate of Masses and devotions (I've been told that the Missale Romanum is a 1948 edition). A link to its regular "SCHEDULE" is in the middle section of the menu-stripe on the Web site's main page, just below the name-plate. The header content below the name-plate provides not only the church's address, but also (for the directionally challenged) its latitude & longitude.

As for apostolic succession:
Pastor Louis Montelongo was ordained to the Catholic priesthood, according to the traditional rite, by independent Bp. Timothy Hennebery (R.I.P. June 2012).
Asst. Pastor Jonathan Derrington was ordained to the Catholic priesthood, according to the traditional rite, by independent Bp. Patrick Taylor (for whose valid succession through Bp. Thuc, Fr. Rama Coomaraswamy specifically cited confirmation by Fr. Malachi Martin's highly placed sources).

AlligatorD,

Correct me if I am wrong, I believe, that Fr. Montelongo is connected to the independent Tampa chapel. So that clears up what I forgot to ask the sede priest from the Tampa chapel.

A-lynching we shall go...

After verifying - I believe the Tampa chapel is no longer connected with + Montelongo because the Tampa chapel is sedevacantist and + Montelongo is not. Why don't you call + Montelongo and find out from the horse's mouth ?

curioustrad · « **Reply #44 on:** September 05, 2014, 04:41:04 PM »

Quote from: SeekerOfTruth

I found it odd what the British Trad priest in Spring Hill told me. If I recall correctly he said he was formerly a sede but because of a teaching on perpetual succession he has since come to believe that the Seat is not vacant and that he has to offer the Mass in union with Francis and the local bishop because of this belief. And yet he is not trying to join them because there is a spiritual necessity to provide the pre-1955 Mass. Unless I misunderstood him, this is what I think he was telling me.

Another Lynch job: why don't you call him and ask him ?

I find it "odd" that we are subjected to rumors and falsehoods.

+ Montelongo has nothing to do with Tampa and Fr. Wright doesn't have anything to do with St. Petersburg either. What game are you up to ? You keep asking for a "valid" and "Catholic" Mass but you turn down all offers and continue to question credentials.

Can't you Trads see the game this person is up to ?

Geography question for all: Where is St. Petersburg in relation to Tampa and Orlando ?