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Offline PG

Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2014, 02:48:15 PM »
seekeroftruth - if you take a look at illyricuмsacrum's recent posts, you will see how they are wolves in sheep's clothing.  He is indirectly positing that +Kelly's consecration was as they like to say "top secret"/"private" and even foolishly "not docuмented" to give you the idea that +Kelly's was no different than the Thuc consecrations.  Read the sacred and the profane, and you will see there is an enormous difference.  There are numerous still photographs of +Kellys consecration showing all that is required of a consecration outside of the norms of the church.  The docuмentation accompanying the photos is flawless.

Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2014, 02:57:11 PM »
Let's stay on target, and that's helping Seeker out. Not airing out some CI members obsessions.


Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2014, 03:06:25 PM »
Quote from: SeekerOfTruth
To tdrev123,

I will give Bp Sanborn's parish a call to get their views.

Also I talked to a Traditional priest in Spring Hill which is near Brooksville. He had a British accent and he told me that because of the promise of perpetual succession that he says the pre-1955 Mass in union with Francis and the local bishop. He told me to attend a diocesan Latin Mass in Tampa. Do you know anything about him?  

Both Spring Hill and Brooksville are a bit too far for me to drive but I will be interested in hearing more from the Brooksville chapel.


That is really strange, I have never heard of any priest saying saying a pre- 1955 mass and being in union with 'Pope' Francis - did he mean that he says their name in the canon, or that he is actually affiliated with the diocese?

So you have gotten lots of opinions from people on here, to decide what mass is best/or you consider valid, you need to determine if you believe that masses with the 'Francis'  in canon makes it a valid mass...if you think its okay, then you could go to an Eastern Right, although you need to do research into the church, some eastern rites have been 'novus ordoized' especially the Maronite Church -

Then there is the topic of SSPV, I'm not sure what type of mass center they have there but you need to determine if you think Bp Kelly was validly ordained - I believe it was valid, although if you go to mass there, you can't go to mass anywhere else, and they are very close to being heretics on their position of EENS (I'm not going to get into that though), and also they might be heretics for denying communion to Catholics who go to Thuc bishops or to "Followers of Leonard Feeney" (there words not mine)...

If you are a firm sedevacantist, as I am, do research into Thuc Bishops, do research into Bishop Kelly's Consecration, research una cuм masses...but always do research unbiased and try to seek the truth (as your name suggests)

Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2014, 03:10:05 PM »
Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum
Let's stay on target, and that's helping Seeker out. Not airing out some CI members obsessions.


I'd like to stay on target.   I have heard there is a book out there that goes through all the positions of each Traditionalist Catholic group. Does anybody know the name of the book and the author?  I was told it was written by a Sedevacantist. My SSPX friend actually recommended it to me, and I wrote it down but cannot find it now. I guess I can email him and ask him again. Does anybody know what I am referring to?

Offline PG

Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2014, 03:51:42 PM »
seekeroftruth - perhaps you know of all of these groups, but do you know why there are all of these groups?  Do you know that malachi martin was a marrano jew being paid under the table by a chief rabbi of new york to influence V2 and the traditional movement(BTW martin is still popular amongst una cuм resisters)?  

If you are already prepared to receive sacraments without knowing the reasons that drive the trad world enough to definitively choose, then perhaps you do belong at brooksville. The twin gods comfort and convenience eagerly await thee there.