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I have been studying the Traditional Catholic Faith in the past few months. I was baptized Catholic (I think) shortly after the V2 council. I attended a parochial school from K thru 8 and then a "Catholic" high school where I did learn some Catholic History including the history of antipopes. I was Confirmed (I think) in the 1980's. I became a Cafeteria Catholic in college and returned to orthodoxy and what I thought was the Catholic Church shortly after.  I was always pro-life and I joined a "Catholic" young adults group as well as some "Catholic" Charismatic prayer groups in my area. I was introduced to the Latin Mass on a visit to EWTN in the late 1990's. I learned a lot more about the Catholic Faith by watching EWTN and listening to a Catholic radio station and attending lots of Catholic retreats. Unfortunately I now recognize I was getting an altered version of the True Catholic Faith. About 10 years ago I met some Traditional Catholics in my area through prolife work, but they lacked charity and I was turned off from the Latin Mass because of their fanatical and judgmental ways. I have forgiven them, and I am now starting to believe that they were just poor and weak messengers, and I decided to take another look at the Traditional Catholic groups.  For years I was told that the liberal priests and nuns who are so against the prolifers were just twisting Vatican II to suit their own agendas. I recently read the V2 docuмents on the Vatican's website, and I finally saw the heresies they contain. I have also read why the Novus Ordo Mass is invalid, The Plot Against the Church, the 1936 article on the Jєωιѕн Peril from the Catholic Gazette of London, and Ratzinger's heretical writings in Principles of Catholic Theology.  I know about the FSSP, the SSPX, the SSPV, the CMRI, the Thuc line, the Siri Pope Gregory XVII folks, and others. I have read the writings of Father Luigi Villa and I know about Malachi Martin and Fr. Rama Coomaraswamy. I have studied the varying opinions and I am leaning towards a Sedevacantist or Sedeimpedist (sp??) position. I stopped attending the Novus Ordo Mass because I could not stand the casual worship anymore. I will not attend a diocesan Latin Mass or the FSSP, and I am still hesitant to go to the Sedevacantist chapel near me because I do not know if the priest has true apostolic succession. I am living like the Japanese Catholics or the English Recusants who did not have priests or Mass for centuries. I do this by trying to make a Spiritual Communion daily, also a Perfect Act of Contrition when I sin, and by reading Traditional Catholic writings including the writings of the Saints. I also pray the Rosary and pray to Our Lady of Good Success. I have rejected the Chaplet of Divine Mercy and all popes after Pius XII.  So where do I turn for a valid Latin Mass??? I live between Tampa and Orlando.

Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2014, 03:23:40 AM »
If you are a sedevacantist, then go to Mass at Most Holy Trinity Seminary in Brooksville Florida.  I have never been to there but I know it is one of the best Mass sites in the US for Sedes.  

Here is a link of the Bulletin,

http://mostholytrinityseminary.org/QAS%20Bulletin%20New.pdf

If you are worried about apostolic succession, my question is do you believe in Thuc Bishops?  If you do, then you should Bishop Sanborn and any of the priests at MHT are validly ordained and have apostolic succession.

Bishop Sanborn's Episcopal Lineage is: Sanborn > Mckenna > Des Lauriers > Thuc
Des Lauriers is one of the safest lines of lineage, if not the safest.


Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2014, 06:19:46 AM »
My in-laws live in Lakeland, Florida.  When we visit, we go to a chapel in Tampa:

Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel
2404 E. Stuart St., Tampa, FL 33605

http://www.immaculateheartofmarychapel.com/

If this is the chapel you say you are hesitant to go to, I suggest you make an appointment with one of the priests and discuss your concerns.  I am sure he will put your concerns to rest.

Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 07:41:15 AM »
To tdrev123,

I will give Bp Sanborn's parish a call to get their views.

Also I talked to a Traditional priest in Spring Hill which is near Brooksville. He had a British accent and he told me that because of the promise of perpetual succession that he says the pre-1955 Mass in union with Francis and the local bishop. He told me to attend a diocesan Latin Mass in Tampa. Do you know anything about him?  

Both Spring Hill and Brooksville are a bit too far for me to drive but I will be interested in hearing more from the Brooksville chapel.

Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2014, 07:45:47 AM »
To TKGS,

Thanks. I talked to the priest at the Immaculate Heart Chapel in Tampa that you mentioned. He said he is Sedevacantist but does not require me to hold that belief. However, when I talked to him, I forgot to ask him about his Apostolic succession. Do you know?

Thanks!